powermail-discuss Digest #2861 - Saturday, July 10, 2010

  Re: multiple installs > one database
          by "John Snippe" <[email protected]>
  Re: multiple installs > one database
          by "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>
  Re: multiple installs > one database
          by "John Snippe" <[email protected]>
  Re: multiple installs > one database
          by "Powermail" <[email protected]>
  Re: multiple installs > one database
          by "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>
  Re: multiple installs > one database
          by "John Snippe" <[email protected]>
  Re: multiple installs > one database
          by "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>


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Subject: Re: multiple installs > one database
From: "John Snippe" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:07:46 -0400


On 8-Jul-10, at 8:10 AM, MB wrote:

> I didn't get there was multiple users, just multiple accounts. So this
> involves many users?

To be accurate, it's currently two users and three computer
locations... tho that could grow.

IMAP could work, except that it's interfaces (eg: squirrelmail) tend
to be so primitive, and lack control.

Anyone here have experience with Mailsmith?

--
John Snippe





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Subject: Re: multiple installs > one database
From: "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:51:16 +0200

John Snippe <[email protected]> wrote (Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:07:46 -0400):

> IMAP could work, except that it's interfaces (eg: squirrelmail) tend
> to be so primitive, and lack control.
>
> Anyone here have experience with Mailsmith?

I like Mailsmith, and if it had been free at the time when I was looking
for a new email client, I admit I might have chosen Mailsmith instead of
PowerMail.

However, while PowerMail's IMAP support it quite "basic", Mailsmith
doesn't support IMAP at all. And, according to the author, it probably
never will.
And Mailsmith doesn't work with a single database but individual files
(one file for each message) and I don't know what will happen if you
just sync those files between various computers.

Kind regards,
Tobias Jung



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Subject: Re: multiple installs > one database
From: "John Snippe" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:39:09 -0400


On 10-Jul-10, at 9:51 AM, Tobias Jung wrote:

> And Mailsmith doesn't work with a single database but individual files
> (one file for each message) and I don't know what will happen if you
> just sync those files between various computers.


Actually, afaik the current iteration does indeed use a database
rather than text-file system... it was apparently the first thing the
developer changed in going from v2.2 to v2.2.5 once BareBones let it
go.  It's one of the things that somewhat disappointed me about this
new version as I am kinda-sorta still old-school about liking text
files ;-)

It would actually not be a 'sync' issue per se, if I set up the "user
database" in the Dropbox folder, and alias that folder to the various
installs (I think...)   That's something I am hoping to test, in any
event.

I feel so unfaithful having this discourse here...

BTW: the sales department did get through to me this AM with a multi-
license promo coupon... thanks, Chantal ;-)
--
John Snippe





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Subject: Re: multiple installs > one database
From: "Powermail" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:42:04 +0200

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Am 10.07.10 14:07, schrieb John Snippe:
>
> On 8-Jul-10, at 8:10 AM, MB wrote:
>
>> I didn't get there was multiple users, just multiple accounts. So this
>> involves many users?
>
> To be accurate, it's currently two users and three computer locations...
> tho that could grow.
>
> IMAP could work, except that it's interfaces (eg: squirrelmail) tend to
> be so primitive, and lack control.
>
> Anyone here have experience with Mailsmith?

you maybe want to take a look on Thundrbird or Apple Mail.
Both work well with several IMAP accounts.

If you administer your server, you could install RoundCube instead of
SquirrelMail. RoundCube needs additional a mySQL installed, but has a
nice interface.

cheers
Matthias
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Subject: Re: multiple installs > one database
From: "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:57:58 +0200

John Snippe <[email protected]> wrote (Sat, 10 Jul 2010 10:39:09 -0400):

> Actually, afaik the current iteration does indeed use a database
> rather than text-file system... it was apparently the first thing the
> developer changed in going from v2.2 to v2.2.5 once BareBones let it
> go.  It's one of the things that somewhat disappointed me about this
> new version as I am kinda-sorta still old-school about liking text
> files ;-)

No, it's the other way round:
While the old version used a database (or maybe mbox files with a single
file for each mail folder, can't remember at the moment) the current
version indeed stores an individual file for each message.

It's somewhat "disguised" since there seems to be a single file called
"Mail" in the Mailsmith User Data directory but actually it's a package.
When you select "Show package content" (or whatever this menu item is
called in the english version) from the Finder contextual menu you'll
see various folders, and within those folders, the message files.

Trust me, I've Mailsmith 2.2.5 installed here on my system -- because of
PowerMail, I don't really need it but I was curious enough to test it... ;-)

Kind regards,
Tobias Jung



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Subject: Re: multiple installs > one database
From: "John Snippe" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:16:29 -0400


On 10-Jul-10, at 10:57 AM, Tobias Jung wrote:

> No, it's the other way round:
> While the old version used a database (or maybe mbox files with a
> single
> file for each mail folder, can't remember at the moment) the current
> version indeed stores an individual file for each message.

MyBad... you are absolutely right.  I could use Coda to browse my
email ;-)

Do you know if there is a trick to getting Mailsmith to resolve
aliases?  I am attempting to store the 'user dababase' outside the
default location, and the docs say this is possible, but so far no
joy...

--
John Snippe





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Subject: Re: multiple installs > one database
From: "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:00:38 +0200

John Snippe <[email protected]> wrote (Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:16:29 -0400):

> Do you know if there is a trick to getting Mailsmith to resolve
> aliases?  I am attempting to store the 'user dababase' outside the
> default location, and the docs say this is possible, but so far no
> joy...

Sorry, I can't help you; I never tried something like this.

Kind regards,
Tobias Jung




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