powermail-discuss Digest #2999 - Friday, August 3, 2012
Re(2): Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
by "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
Re: Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
by "Mark Gerber" <[email protected]>
Re: Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
by "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
Re: Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
by "Midi Cox" <[email protected]>
Re(2): Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
by "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
PM Update Broken
by "Anthony R Sanna" <[email protected]>
Re: PM Update Broken
by "Midi Cox" <[email protected]>
Re: PM Update Broken
by "PowerMail Engineering" <[email protected]>
Re: Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
by "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
Re: PM Update Broken
by "Midi Cox" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re(2): Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
From: "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 15:05:45 -0400
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012, Rene Merz <...> wrote:
>@ Peter Lovell:
>Please chance you reply settings for this mailing list in a way, that
>you don't show the mail addresses of others in the body text of your
>reply; to avoid SPAM.
>Thank you.
Hi Rene,
I expect that spammers will harvest all addresses in email and not only those
in the body text. In other words, if you have ever posted to this list, your
address is known.
Regards.....Peter
p.s. the reply setting are the PowerMail default, and not anything I have set
myself
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Subject: Re: Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
From: "Mark Gerber" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:10:55 -0400
...it was only then (at 1:32 PM on 08/02/2012), that Rene Merz whispered from
the dark ...
>I made a report directly to PowerMail, and I'm glad that they did react
>quickly making an update with the 6.1.2 version!
>Thank you, PowerMail!
Good to know! Thanks, Rene.
I just reinstalled v.6.1 (found a link on the top right of this page:
<http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail/index.html>). As soon as the re-indexing and
search optimization finishes I'll re-upgrade to 6.1.2.
And I should have mentioned I'm on Snow Leopard, too.
Mark
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Gerber Studio
Illustration & Design for Print & Web
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<http://www.gerberstudio.com>
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Subject: Re: Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
From: "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 21:22:53 +0200
Peter Lovell wrote:
>On Sat, Nov 17, 2012, Rene Merz <...> wrote:
>
>>@ Peter Lovell:
>>Please chance you reply settings for this mailing list in a way, that
>>you don't show the mail addresses of others in the body text of your
>>reply; to avoid SPAM.
>>Thank you.
>
>Hi Rene,
>
>I expect that spammers will harvest all addresses in email and not only
>those in the body text. In other words, if you have ever posted to this
>list, your address is known.
>
>Regards.....Peter
>
>p.s. the reply setting are the PowerMail default, and not anything I
>have set myself
>
No, Peter, you are mistaken, there is no other way to find out the mail address
of any member of this mailing list! The addresses are not listed publicly
somewhere.
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Subject: Re: Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
From: "Midi Cox" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:23:50 -0700
However in Mountain Lion, the 6.1.2 version has the problem Rene found.
Midi
On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Mark Gerber <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...it was only then (at 1:32 PM on 08/02/2012), that Rene Merz whispered from
> the dark ...
>
>> I made a report directly to PowerMail, and I'm glad that they did react
>> quickly making an update with the 6.1.2 version!
>> Thank you, PowerMail!
>
> Good to know! Thanks, Rene.
> I just reinstalled v.6.1 (found a link on the top right of this page:
> <http://www.ctmdev.com/powermail/index.html>). As soon as the re-indexing and
> search optimization finishes I'll re-upgrade to 6.1.2.
>
> And I should have mentioned I'm on Snow Leopard, too.
>
> Mark
> ----------------
> Gerber Studio
> Illustration & Design for Print & Web
> ----------------
> <http://www.gerberstudio.com>
>
>
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Subject: Re(2): Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
From: "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 17:10:11 -0400
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012, Rene Merz <...> wrote:
>Peter Lovell wrote:
>
>>On Sat, Nov 17, 2012, Rene Merz <...> wrote:
>>
>>>@ Peter Lovell:
>>>Please chance you reply settings for this mailing list in a way, that
>>>you don't show the mail addresses of others in the body text of your
>>>reply; to avoid SPAM.
>>>Thank you.
>>
>>Hi Rene,
>>
>>I expect that spammers will harvest all addresses in email and not only
>>those in the body text. In other words, if you have ever posted to this
>>list, your address is known.
>>
>>Regards.....Peter
>>
>>p.s. the reply setting are the PowerMail default, and not anything I
>>have set myself
>>
>No, Peter, you are mistaken, there is no other way to find out the mail
>address of any member of this mailing list! The addresses are not listed
>publicly somewhere.
I'm sorry Rene, but your statement is incorrect.
Your email address is clearly shown as the "From" address in the reply you just
sent. You are correct that the address list is not available, but the address
of any poster to the list is available to all members of the list.
In fact, this is *exactly* why your address was shown in my earlier reply -- it
was the "From:" address in the email, and that's why PM inserted it in the
reply-heading to which you referred.
In other words, if anyone has ever posted to the list, their sending address is
known to all subscribers. Addresses of *members* may well be private, but
addresses of *posters* are not.
Regards.....Peter
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Subject: PM Update Broken
From: "Anthony R Sanna" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:35:14 -0500
What has happened to PowerMail? I'm writing this from Apple's Mail because as
soon as I downloaded the latest CTM update, PowerMail 6.1.2 build 4650, it
broke. It won't send. It won't receive. It can't remember passwords. What's
up? It doesn't like Mountain Lion.
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Subject: Re: PM Update Broken
From: "Midi Cox" <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:42:20 -0700
Agreed. It remembered one of 3 passwords for me: Mac.com, not gmail or
EarthLink and no matter how many times I put in the password it could not
receive.
Midi
On Aug 2, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Anthony R Sanna <[email protected]> wrote:
> What has happened to PowerMail? I'm writing this from Apple's Mail because
> as soon as I downloaded the latest CTM update, PowerMail 6.1.2 build 4650, it
> broke. It won't send. It won't receive. It can't remember passwords.
> What's up? It doesn't like Mountain Lion.
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Subject: Re: PM Update Broken
From: "PowerMail Engineering" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 09:38:20 +0200
Anthony R Sanna wrote:
>What has happened to PowerMail? I'm writing this from Apple's Mail
>because as soon as I downloaded the latest CTM update, PowerMail 6.1.2
>build 4650, it broke. It won't send. It won't receive. It can't
>remember passwords. What's up? It doesn't like Mountain Lion.
Sorry for this; updating PowerMail to be compatible with Gatekeeper (on 10.8)
broke the compatibility with the Keychain on 10.6. Fixing this then broke
compatibility with the Keychain on 10.7 and 10.8.
Version 6.1.3 is now available from the update menu, and should bring back
compatibility with the Keychain on all OS versions.
Thanks for the reports
Jérôme - CTM Engineering
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Subject: Re: Annoying repetitive question by PowerMail
From: "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 10:42:35 +0200
Peter Lovell wrote:
>On Thu, Aug 2, 2012, Rene Merz <...> wrote:
>
>>Peter Lovell wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, Nov 17, 2012, Rene Merz <...> wrote:
>>>
>>>>@ Peter Lovell:
>>>>Please chance you reply settings for this mailing list in a way, that
>>>>you don't show the mail addresses of others in the body text of your
>>>>reply; to avoid SPAM.
>>>>Thank you.
>>>
>>>Hi Rene,
>>>
>>>I expect that spammers will harvest all addresses in email and not only
>>>those in the body text. In other words, if you have ever posted to this
>>>list, your address is known.
>>>
>>>Regards.....Peter
>>>
>>>p.s. the reply setting are the PowerMail default, and not anything I
>>>have set myself
>>>
>>No, Peter, you are mistaken, there is no other way to find out the mail
>>address of any member of this mailing list! The addresses are not listed
>>publicly somewhere.
>
>
>I'm sorry Rene, but your statement is incorrect.
>
>Your email address is clearly shown as the "From" address in the reply
>you just sent. You are correct that the address list is not available,
>but the address of any poster to the list is available to all members of
>the list.
>
>In fact, this is *exactly* why your address was shown in my earlier
>reply -- it was the "From:" address in the email, and that's why PM
>inserted it in the reply-heading to which you referred.
>
>In other words, if anyone has ever posted to the list, their sending
>address is known to all subscribers. Addresses of *members* may well be
>private, but addresses of *posters* are not.
>
>Regards.....Peter
>
>
Of course, Peter, the address of every reply is shown as "sender", but for
members of this list only. This is not the problem at all!
But if you write the address into the text, then it's shown publicly, because
there is a public site which shows all messages and threads -- to EVERYONE on
the internet!
See: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>
Your example:
<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg17936.html>
(There my address is obliterated only in a poor way; it's very easy to complete
it.)
And THIS is the problem.
You got it?
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Subject: Re: PM Update Broken
From: "Midi Cox" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 05:06:20 -0700
It works now. Thank you.
Midi
On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:38 AM, PowerMail Engineering <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anthony R Sanna wrote:
>
>> What has happened to PowerMail? I'm writing this from Apple's Mail
>> because as soon as I downloaded the latest CTM update, PowerMail 6.1.2
>> build 4650, it broke. It won't send. It won't receive. It can't
>> remember passwords. What's up? It doesn't like Mountain Lion.
>
> Sorry for this; updating PowerMail to be compatible with Gatekeeper (on 10.8)
> broke the compatibility with the Keychain on 10.6. Fixing this then broke
> compatibility with the Keychain on 10.7 and 10.8.
> Version 6.1.3 is now available from the update menu, and should bring back
> compatibility with the Keychain on all OS versions.
>
> Thanks for the reports
>
>
> Jérôme - CTM Engineering
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> "With FoxTrot, I was finding files that I didn't remember having.
> It was waaaaaay better than Google Desktop search."
> FoxTrot Professional Search user comment on macupdate.com
>
> Download a demo version from www.foxtrot.ch
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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