powermail-discuss Digest #3020 - Sunday, December 16, 2012
Re: crashing
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[email protected]>
Re(2): PM going forward
by "Mark S. P. Smith" <[email protected]>
Re: Re(2): PM going forward
by "Matthias Schmidt" <[email protected]>
Re: crashing
by "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
Re(2): crashing
by "ramito" <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: crashing
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 09:59:44 +0900
Am 16.12.2012 um 01:02 schrieb ramito:
>
> could someone please remind me the steps to locate the appropriate crash log
> to send to developers?
>
> because with latest update of PM and 10.8.2 it is daily .....grrrrr
Crash log you find here:
~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter
cheers
Mathias
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Subject: Re(2): PM going forward
From: "Mark S. P. Smith" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:29:40 +0900
I am also willing but pay for updates if it helps CTMDev maintain PowerMail.
Despite its creaking Carbon foundations it's easily the best mail client
available for the Mac.
However, I fear Sean is right. CTM is unlikely to rewrite PM for Cocoa at this
point, and it would probably hard to justify the effort. With Apple offering
Apple Mail for free, and things like Thunderbird also available, there would be
a limited audience for the application. It may be much better than Mail or TB,
but not enough people would be willing to pay for that benefit, if they find
free alternatives acceptable.
I am reluctantly using TB for IMAP mail, but prefer to use PM for all my mail
if I could.
Mark
At Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:48:54 -0400, the quick nimble fingers of Sean McBride
wrote:
>On Aug 17, 2012, at 03:57, Koen Keevel wrote:
>
>> So what are the future plans from ctmdev?
>
>You guys are all dreaming. PowerMail is dead. It's sad but true.
>
>It's still a 32 bit Carbon app after years and years now of Apple
>telling developers they needed to move to Cocoa. Since PowerMail still
>hasn't made that switch, it's not likely to now.
>
>I appreciate that CTM is keeping it on life support, and still use it at
>work, but a dozen users offering a few pennies isn't going to change anything.
>
>I wouldn't be surprised if OS X 10.9 drops support for 32 bit, and then
>PowerMail won't work. :(
>
>Sean
>
>
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Subject: Re: Re(2): PM going forward
From: "Matthias Schmidt" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:50:06 +0900
Am 16.12.2012 um 17:29 schrieb Mark S. P. Smith:
> I am also willing but pay for updates if it helps CTMDev maintain PowerMail.
> Despite its creaking Carbon foundations it's easily the best mail client
> available for the Mac.
>
> However, I fear Sean is right. CTM is unlikely to rewrite PM for Cocoa at
> this point, and it would probably hard to justify the effort. With Apple
> offering Apple Mail for free, and things like Thunderbird also available,
> there would be a limited audience for the application. It may be much better
> than Mail or TB, but not enough people would be willing to pay for that
> benefit, if they find free alternatives acceptable.
if and only if CTM decides to rewrite PowerMail, because that would be
necessary (no 64bit support in Carbon, Textengine non-utf, limited
imap-support) , then it might give PowerMail a boost and bring many new users.
As I wrote in the croatian thread, I reviewed all of the currently available
mail-clients for the mac and the result was pretty frustrating.
There is currently no mail-client on the market, which can compete with the
clear design and the power of the search-engine of PowerMail.
So again, please Jérôme, think about it, thank you.
>
> I am reluctantly using TB for IMAP mail, but prefer to use PM for all my mail
> if I could.
imho AppleMail handles imap better than TB.
cheers
Matthias
>
> Mark
>
> At Wed, 22 Aug 2012 10:48:54 -0400, the quick nimble fingers of Sean McBride
> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 03:57, Koen Keevel wrote:
>>
>>> So what are the future plans from ctmdev?
>>
>> You guys are all dreaming. PowerMail is dead. It's sad but true.
>>
>> It's still a 32 bit Carbon app after years and years now of Apple
>> telling developers they needed to move to Cocoa. Since PowerMail still
>> hasn't made that switch, it's not likely to now.
>>
>> I appreciate that CTM is keeping it on life support, and still use it at
>> work, but a dozen users offering a few pennies isn't going to change
>> anything.
>>
>> I wouldn't be surprised if OS X 10.9 drops support for 32 bit, and then
>> PowerMail won't work. :(
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: crashing
From: "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:58:26 -0500
My approach is ...
1. when the Apple crash reporter comes up, click in the bottom pane, cmd-A then
cmd-C to copy the crash info. Click OK to send the report to Apple
2. start PM and select Help->Send feedback to CTM
3. cmd-V to paste the dump into the message, send to CTM
Cheers.....Peter
ramito <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> could someone please remind me the steps to locate the appropriate
>crash log to send to developers?
>
>because with latest update of PM and 10.8.2 it is daily .....grrrrr
>
>
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Subject: Re(2): crashing
From: "ramito" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:39:19 -0800
Thanks - I see it is the same as what is found in the console log, so I have
done that - thanks!
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:58:26 [email protected] wrote something like:
>My approach is ...
>
>1. when the Apple crash reporter comes up, click in the bottom pane, cmd-
>A then cmd-C to copy the crash info. Click OK to send the report to Apple
>2. start PM and select Help->Send feedback to CTM
>3. cmd-V to paste the dump into the message, send to CTM
>
>Cheers.....Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>ramito <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> could someone please remind me the steps to locate the appropriate
>>crash log to send to developers?
>>
>>because with latest update of PM and 10.8.2 it is daily .....grrrrr
>>
>>
>
>
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