powermail-discuss Digest #3022 - Wednesday, February 13, 2013

  Re: Should have been smarter!!!  Lost stuff.
          by "PowerMail Engineering" <[email protected]>
  Re: Should have been smarter!!!  Lost stuff.
          by "T.L. Miller" <[email protected]>
  Re: Should have been smarter!!!  Lost stuff.
          by "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>
  Reliability under Mountain Lion
          by "Daniele Procida" <[email protected]>
  Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
          by "Jim Pistrang" <[email protected]>
  Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
          by "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
  Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
          by "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
  Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
          by "Beatrix Willius" <[email protected]>
  Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
          by "T.L. Miller" <[email protected]>


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Subject: Re: Should have been smarter!!!  Lost stuff.
From: "PowerMail Engineering" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:12:12 +0100

T.L. Miller wrote:

>Looks like all my messages since July 30, 2012 have disappeared.

That is strange; did you have some error messages or something? As described, I 
would think that PowerMail has switched to a backup of your database at this 
date; make sure the good database is selected in File/Database/Switch User 
Environment.


Jérôme - CTM Engineering


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Subject: Re: Should have been smarter!!!  Lost stuff.
From: "T.L. Miller" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:16:18 -0500

On 2/12/13, at 12:32 PM, Thomas L. Miller [email protected] said:

>Thanks!!  PowerMail has been so reliable for me, I forgot about that solution.
>
>I guess I'll check all 5 check boxes under the maintenance heading.

As robust as PM is, I was unable to repair the damage I caused. I cloned back 
the hard drive from my external back-up, so very few messages, none important, 
were lost in PM.



Tom Miller
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"The only time we see the middle of the road is as
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
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Subject: Re: Should have been smarter!!!  Lost stuff.
From: "Tobias Jung" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:28:38 +0100

T.L. Miller wrote (Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:16:18 -0500):

> As robust as PM is, I was unable to repair the damage I caused. I cloned
> back the hard drive from my external back-up, so very few messages, none
> important, were lost in PM.

Hint: Tell PM not to delete the messages from the server for a few days.
If this ever happens again (I hope not), the messages that aren't on your 
backup drive simply will be fetched again.

Kind regards,
Tobias Jung



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Subject: Reliability under Mountain Lion
From: "Daniele Procida" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:37:46 +0000

I am finding that I am getting regular crashes from PowerMail, a program that 
rarely gave me any trouble.

The latest crash report, which occurred when deleting a message, is 
<http://dpaste.org/moXxg/>.

I'd hate to give up PowerMail for something else, so I keep using it despite 
the lack of IMAP support that would make it far more convenient for me. But to 
have crashes and to lose work regularly is becoming an increasing problem.

Are these crashes troubling anyone else?

Daniele


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Subject: Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
From: "Jim Pistrang" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:02:44 -0500

Hi Daniele,

No crashes here, running OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion on a PowerBook with 8GB 
memory & plenty of hard drive space, over 100,000 messages in database.

Jim

>I am finding that I am getting regular crashes from PowerMail, a program
>that rarely gave me any trouble.
>
>The latest crash report, which occurred when deleting a message, is
><http://dpaste.org/moXxg/>.
>
>I'd hate to give up PowerMail for something else, so I keep using it
>despite the lack of IMAP support that would make it far more convenient
>for me. But to have crashes and to lose work regularly is becoming an
>increasing problem.
>
>Are these crashes troubling anyone else?
>
>Daniele

--
Jim Pistrang
JP Computer Resources
413-256-4569
<http://www.jpcr.com>



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Subject: Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
From: "Peter Lovell" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:17:03 -0500

Daniele Procida <[email protected]> wrote:

>I am finding that I am getting regular crashes from PowerMail, a program
>that rarely gave me any trouble.
>
>The latest crash report, which occurred when deleting a message, is
><http://dpaste.org/moXxg/>.
>
>I'd hate to give up PowerMail for something else, so I keep using it
>despite the lack of IMAP support that would make it far more convenient
>for me. But to have crashes and to lose work regularly is becoming an
>increasing problem.
>
>Are these crashes troubling anyone else?
>
>Daniele


Hi Daniele,

I have been having them once or twice a week. In my case they seem to be 
triggered by dragging an item from In Tray to one of the folders. Some of the 
messages are displayed in the Mail Browser preview pane briefly when they're 
selected for drag, and other times they are not. I suspect that this may have 
something to do with the crash but can't tell for sure.

I have been forwarding the crash reports as feedback.

There does not seem to have been any data loss - just the frustration of having 
to restart PM.

Cheers.....Peter


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Subject: Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
From: "Rene Merz" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:17:51 +0100

Neither here on 10.8.2

Did you rebuild/repair the PowerMail items by holding down the "alt" and "cmd" 
key while launching PowerMail?

Could also be helpful to install and run Onyx (2.6.7) to clean your Mac:
<http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx>



>Hi Daniele,
>
>No crashes here, running OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion on a PowerBook with
>8GB memory & plenty of hard drive space, over 100,000 messages in database.
>
>Jim
>
>>I am finding that I am getting regular crashes from PowerMail, a program
>>that rarely gave me any trouble.
>>
>>The latest crash report, which occurred when deleting a message, is
>><http://dpaste.org/moXxg/>.
>>
>>I'd hate to give up PowerMail for something else, so I keep using it
>>despite the lack of IMAP support that would make it far more convenient
>>for me. But to have crashes and to lose work regularly is becoming an
>>increasing problem.
>>
>>Are these crashes troubling anyone else?
>>
>>Daniele
>
>--
>Jim Pistrang
>JP Computer Resources
>413-256-4569
><http://www.jpcr.com>
>
>
>



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Subject: Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
From: "Beatrix Willius" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:41:20 +0100

At first glance the crash looks like a problem with WebKit.


On 13.02.2013, at 17:17, Peter Lovell <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have been having them once or twice a week. In my case they seem to be 
> triggered by dragging an item from In Tray to one of the folders. Some of the 
> messages are displayed in the Mail Browser preview pane briefly when they're 
> selected for drag, and other times they are not. I suspect that this may have 
> something to do with the crash but can't tell for sure.
> 
> I have been forwarding the crash reports as feedback.
> 
> There does not seem to have been any data loss - just the frustration of 
> having to restart PM.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Regards

Trixi Willius

http://www.mothsoftware.com
Mail Archiver X: The email archiving solution for professionals


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Subject: Re: Reliability under Mountain Lion
From: "T.L. Miller" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:42:35 -0500

On 2/13/13, at 3:37 PM, Daniele Procida [email protected] said:

>I'd hate to give up PowerMail for something else, so I keep using it
>despite the lack of IMAP support that would make it far more convenient
>for me. But to have crashes and to lose work regularly is becoming an
>increasing problem.

I have a PM crash maybe once every month or two. I wouldn't call my recent 
problem a crash, just stupidity on my part. I really bogged down my Mac w/ too 
many apps and then had to force quit and restart it.

I plan to continue to use PowerMail as long as I can. I doubt if it's 
economically feasible for CTMDev to do any major upgrades, but I'm still 
pleased with it. I now use a POP e-mail address as much as possible rather that 
Apple's IMAP.



Tom Miller
..................................................
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark
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