I live in the San Francisco bay area, and there are freakishly high  
quantities of older OpenFirmware based G3 and G4 machines around here.  
I'd be happy to help facilitate their sale/shipment/transfer to  
anywhere in the world simply for the cost of the unit itself and  
shipping. These go on Craigslist around here all the time for around  
USD$75-150 for the original new-world B&W (Blue & White/Bondi Blue)  
G3's, which are OF-based. I've even seen graphite G4's go for under  
$100 (I see one for $85 now).

I'm willing to help facilitate their pick-up and shipment anywhere in  
the world for the cost of shipping and the unit itself, with zero mark- 
up, because I'd like to see the successful porting of OpenSolaris to  
PPC through to fruition any way I can.

Please contact me off-list if you would like assistance with this. All  
I ask is that you actually use the box occasionally to help port  
OpenSolaris to PPC. If you've contributed to the project already,  
provide a reference. For those who honestly have $0, I may  
occasionally be able to "sponsor" your machine if you can prove your  
income level with some kind of government form/tax document.

On Mar 1, 2008, at 5:32 PM, John Sonnenschein wrote:

> Heya.
>
> Does anyone happen to know the significant differences between the G3
> and the G4 as far as they relate to this project?
>
> Reason I ask is that while I know it'd be great if we had an infinite
> supply of ODW's, we don't. Polaris /has to/ run on plain OFW powerpc.
> There's no way around that, no matter how much we may wish it to be
> so. We simply cannot make forward progress without a cheap, plentiful
> development platform.
>
> However, PS3's and g4 powermacs are still on the expensive side. I
> can't afford one in either case. What I can afford though is an old
> newworld G3 machine ( bondi imac or similar ) , they can be had for
> under $50 these days. I've given up hope trying to get my 44p booting
> off the net, and I don't know where to begin coaxing GRUB2 on to the
> thing. I've successfully netbooted a powermac ( mac mini actually... )
> before, so I know apple's OFW implementation works. I was thinking
> then of picking up some ancient apple kit & having a go at making it
> work properly.
>
> So, hence my question if anyone knows. The significant difference
> between a G3 and a G4 ( aside from altivec ) is?
>
> Cheers
> -John
>
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