Kapitalisme ambruk:
Wah jika memilih antara tinggal di negara dimana kapitalismenya sudah ambruk, dengan negara lain, seperti Korea Utara, Iran, Mozambique (mungkin negara2 ini tidak termasuk negara kapitalisme ambruk?), yach, saya sih akan memilih tinggal di negara kapitalime ambruk tsb., dimana ada kebebasa bersuara, pengangguran rendah, gdp dan gnp nya tinggi, undang2 di patuhi, dll. dll. :-) Amrik dengan minyak: Wah, Amrik tidak membeli minyak dari Irak dan Taliban. Betul sekali amrik adalah konsumsi minyak yang terbanyak di dunia, tetapi kalau Amrik tidak jadi konsumen terbesar, kemana negara2 lain menjual minyaknya? Ke Indonesia? Muang thai? Kenya? Apakah negara2 tsb. bisa membeli minyak sebanyak Amrik? Dan ekonomi negara2 penjual minyak tsb. akan berpengaruh yang jauh lebih buruk dari pada ekonmi di negara Amrik. ", akhirnya runtuh...., orang Eropa yg dulu katanya gudange wong kristen, la wong grejane wis kosong mlompong.... banyak atheis tanpa tahu mengapa harus athesi, mengapa harus dibabtis.... skenario memang Islam akan jaya kembali..... Yesus akan menangisi masyarakat Kristen dan menyeru ke Islam...., dan .... ya kiamat..... " Kalau menurut kriteria moderator ini adalah sara. Tetapi kalau menurut saya sih, itu adalah pendapat anda, hak kebebasan bersuara anda. amartien ----------- --- On Mon 08/30, =?iso-8859-1?q?dicky=20riyadi?= < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: =?iso-8859-1?q?dicky=20riyadi?= [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:23:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Fwd: LIBERALISM KAPITALISME AKAN AMBRUK ! sudah ambruk lah ini mbak Wijaya..., kapitalisme sudha ambruk tuh...., coba apa sebenarnya maunya George Bush menyebru Irak? Kata sebagian orang USA sendiri, ya demi minyak. Bukan Osama, bukan Islam, bukan nuklir..<br> <br>Kenapa menyebru Afganistan? ya karena Taliban minta tarif tinggi bila USA berbisnis minyak dan pipanya melintasi Afganistan...<br> <br>Amerika adalah kiblat kapitalisme, dan sudah banyak yg runtuh dari kapitalisme; konsultan Andersen yg huebat itu juga ternyata tidak mampu bersikap jujur....<br> <br>http://www.doublestandards.org/<br> <br>, akhirnya runtuh...., orang Eropa yg dulu katanya gudange wong kristen, la wong grejane wis kosong mlompong.... banyak atheis tanpa tahu mengapa harus athesi, mengapa harus dibabtis...<br> <br>skenario memang Islam akan jaya kembali..... Yesus akan menangisi masyarakat Kristen dan menyeru ke Islam...., dan .... ya kiamat......<br> <br>http://www.yesusakankembali.com/index2.html<br> <br> <br> <br>retorika manungso tidak akan mampu membantah skenario ini...., meskipuns ekarang saudaraku di Palestine sedang dirundung duka dalam....., tanahnya dirampas.... pemimpinnya dirudal...., teraniaya di negeri sendiri...<br> <br>tapi Zaman Akhir telah sangatlah dekat...<br><br>la_luta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br><br>Keresahan para anak bangsapun menggelobal, namun yang menjadi <br>pertanyaan adalah, Apakah kita sebagai makluk Alam masih tetap <br>mempunyai spirit cinta damai kemanusiaan?<br>Dan, bagaimana kita musti memulai demi menyelamatkan keterpurukan?<br><br>Lailapun mencoba untuk merenungkan keresahannya... <br>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "laila faisal" <br><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br><br>dear all<br>i will pick up from dr. alloush;and also from dr. imad lutfi whom i <br>intended <br>to reply to after the 26the date is over.<br>i also want to be a dreamer dr. alloush. that is where big things <br>are born; <br>in dreams. and i would also call upon all to keep the momentum <br>started here <br>on this list going. minor matters make up major ones;i read <br>somewhere. who <br>said one brick does not make much difference to the overall <br>structure of a <br>house? and who said each of us could only donate one single brick?<br>how else then did the united states fail to earn legitimacy and is <br>internationally labeled an occupier and not a liberator of iraq? how <br>else is <br>the palestinian issue alive after more than half a century of bloody <br>struggle against the mightiest military powers in the world?if it <br>was not of <br>piles and piles of bricks pitched in from individuals with brave <br>hearts?<br><br>it seems there is already a common sentiment all over the arab world <br>that <br>yes it is as bad as this: it is up to the ordinary people like us <br>to <br>somehow form our own national defense line against an aggressive <br>sweeping <br>wave of colonialism on a scale our history have not yet experienced. <br>the <br>aftermath of which we fear will only throw us back into a surreal <br>state of <br>affairs no nation with any sort of backbone will tolerate. if we <br>lack vision <br>we at least do not lack sight;unless we are physically blind. iraq <br>and <br>palestine are living examples of how our lives;all of us;every where <br>on arab <br>soil;will look like. we are only too aware of the fact.<br><br>now malhas in a previous post made nine points on how he thought we <br>could <br>approach building a unified popular arab front. i found them <br>reasonable. <br>personally i endorse them as a starting point for discussion at <br>least. may <br>be we could start working on one or two of them. and then take it <br>from <br>there. this is one meeting place where many beautiful minds are at <br>work. and <br>those are linked to similar ones. we even have good friends in the <br>world. <br>lola and john paul are examples.<br>in many unlikely places as well; i met a number of other beautiful <br>minds; <br>whom i will always feel lucky our paths crossed;although some of <br>them i do <br>not even know what features their faces have.<br>what matters is that thi s a nation that has not lost its soul <br>despite <br>everything it went thru. we ARE capable of having a dream and an <br>imagination. we ARE capable ( of hoping for good evenings and good <br>mornings <br>despite everything) as my dear friend parehan kumuks favorite slogan <br>says.<br>those wild flowers native to the arab desert soil stretching from <br>one ocean <br>to the other;taught me to ask WHAT IF we imagined for one moment <br>that we <br>could actually make a difference;what kind of a difference might we <br>make? <br>WHAT IF we supposed for a second that we are free and capable to <br>have a <br>say;what would that say be? i learned from them to believe we have <br>an option <br>to either dare ask those questions or else fall into the bizarre <br>whirlwind <br>we are in now. i learned that what we believe is what we get <br>eventually;it <br>always come down to free choices. no body could take that away from <br>us;free <br>choice i mean.<br>on the practical side of it we know the enormous limitations our <br>wishes <br>fight against. even in best circumstances where nations live in <br>democracies <br>and relative justice ;people often find out this world owes us <br>nothing;not <br>even our living. it is not a birthright to be entitled to anything <br>we do not <br>work hard for.and humans primarily work for security;whatever that <br>translates to;and then status. in our case we should be able to see <br>that we <br>are stripped from both in such huge scale we mount to millions and <br>millions <br>and millions who work hard for everything and end up with no <br>security and no <br>status. among nations that amounts to a loss of national security <br>and a loss <br>of national pride . if we are massively approaching life in the <br>right way <br>but end up in failure;then may be we should ask ourselves if we are <br>approaching our lives in the wrong spirit.<br>from experience; most of us know the major obstacle in the way of <br>any kind <br>of change is written and unwritten laws. and in oppressive <br>establishments;even the ideological ones;laws do not necessarily <br>serve <br>justice. that is the worse kind of opposition one faces;unjust laws. <br>but <br>also from experience we know all laws contain loopholes no matter <br>how well <br>versed they are. for those who do not wish to confront head on those <br>laws <br>those loopholes could provide a way around them. no serious activist <br>would <br>ask people to break laws or bend them;or even get tempted to do so. <br>that is <br>for a different caliber of willing people. actual fighters in any <br>nation <br>make the elite minority.<br>malhas proposes that peaceful efforts could compliment the armed <br>resistance <br>and enhance its objectives. it could manifest in so many forms and <br>shapes. a <br>mass movement could start with agreeing to look into what is <br>lawfully ( <br>allowed) and consider all the legitimate options. close inspection <br>of those <br>possibilities might turn out to offer much more than just one <br>acceptable way <br>to proceed. it might even provide a perfect answer for each and <br>every <br>willing person.<br><br>i am the least qualified to tell others what to do. but i am good at <br>listening to beautiful minds.<br><br>best<br>laila faisal<br><br>--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "the_sangkakala" <br><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<br><br>LIBERALIS KAPITALIS tidak lama lagi akan ambruk selaku ideologi.<br><br>Tanda -tanda sudah amat banyak.<br><br>Manusia tidak lebih bahagia didalam sistem liberal... penuh<br>perpecahan dan kemunafikan, kejahatan bersenjata, perceraian<br>keluarga, pembunuhan pribadi, obat bius, pelacuran, free sex, aborsi,<br>gay-lesbianisme, pemujaan setan, anak jalanan, kehancuran fisik<br>akibat mabok, ketagihan sex, kekacauan dijalanan, senjata ilegal,<br>pornografi, nudisme, dan puncaknya adalah kegilaan ..madness.<br>depresi , tekanan bathin , frustrasi dan bunuh diri.<br><br><br>Kita akan menunggu kehancuran ... pembusukan dari dalam.<br><br>dan mereka akan lari pada spiritualisme agama..<b r>Sedang Kristen telah gagal memberi jalan keluar sebab tidak mampu<br>meluruskan umat dan penuh pertentangan dalam kitab Injil sendiri.<br><br>maka inilah peluang bagi Islam untuk tampil menyelamatkan umat dari<br>kehancuran jiwa ...<br><br>dan ISlam yang akan tampil kedepan adalah Islam rasionalisme ... <br>bukan Islam Liberalisme.<br><br>Islam yg tegak dgn berlatar belakang nilai-nilai rasio filsafatism yg<br>kuat ....dan kita punya jalan kearah itu dgn telah banyaknya<br>bermunculan intelektual rasional Islam.....semacam Azyumardi Azra,<br>Nurkholish Madjid dll....<br><br>Kita tunggu Islam Indonesia meledak bak big bang alam semesta.<br><br>Islam Rasionalisme adalah Nilai - nilai spirituil Islam yang <br>ditegakkan dgn jalan pemikiran ilmiah rasionalis.... segala yg tidak <br>masuk akal, termasuk dogma yg menyesatkan akan dibabat demi <br>pembaruan <br>Islam. Termasuk pemujaan para syekh, Aulia dan wali... mereka perlu <br>dikritisi dan tidak begitu saja ditelan segala program ajaran.<br><br>Al Ghazali seorang pencerah Islam yg dipuja umat Islam .... nyatanya <br>punya kekeliruan yg fatal ...yaitu menyingkirkan rasio dan masuk <br>dalam ekstasi spirit nan melenakan...dan akhirnya umat Islam <br>tertinggal dlm hal sains dan tekhnologi dari Kapitalis Kolonialism.<br><br>Juga Ulama perlu berdialog langsung dgn umat , tidak hanya sekedar <br>semacam Monolog dari atas mimbar.. tetapi juga berdiskusi dan kalau <br>perlu mengakui pendapat jemaah... seandainya benar tentunya.<br><br>Rasional adalah sesuatu yg penting disaat sekarang....tetapi tidak <br>liberal yg membebaskan segala penafsiran dan bentuk-bentuk Islam yg <br>membikin Islam kehilangan Nilai utama......<br><br>Rasional adalah upaya pencerahan dgn jln sistem Ilmiah <br>berfikir ...tidakberpatokan pada empirism dan pragmatism sikap.<br><br>Islam yg bisa menantang Liberalism Kapitalism adalah Islam <br>Rasionalism Kreatif yaitu dapat berlaku rasional serta Kreatif dlm <br>menghadapi Hidup, serta inovatif atas berbagai bidang kehidupan, <br>baik <br>itu Ekonomi, sosial dan budaya Islam...<br><br>Kreatifitas ini ditegakkan dgn jalan metode Ilmiah yg dikembangakna <br>Al farabi, Ibn Sina dan Al kindi ....yaitu rasionalim filsafati <br>Islam...<br>--- End forwarded message ---<br><br><br><br><br>***************************************************************************<br>Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat Persahabatan. 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