--- Dick Channey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great, guys! > > Who has helped to slaughter the poor Indonesians? > Not the Moslems?
Mengapa tiba-tiba lari ke soal agama, Mr. Cheney?eh...Mr. Channey? Who were so happy that the > Indonesians were killed in 1965/66? Not your group? They all human beings, Mister. Banyak orang tak bersalah terbantai .... Kenapa Anda lagi-lagi menggunakan agama untuk memojokkan argumen saya? Bagaimana pula Anda bisa menyebut "your group"? Tahu dari mana? > Who has helped the re-birth of the Islamic partys in > Indonesia? Not the US? NOT the US, Mister. It's not their interests. > A part of the fund given by the US was grants. Do > you understand the meaning of grants? Baca ulang statement saya: SEBAGIAN BESAR (artinya tidak semua). Sebagian besar dari apa yang disebut "bantuan" itu > sebetulnya pinjaman, yang harus dibayar lagi dengan > bunga..... > > Do you think, the Indonesian governments will be > able to really repay the debts (if all of the > assistances will be understood as debts)? Why not? Jika semua pinjaman dikelola dengan benar... > Have you the courage to saya : "Go to hell with you, > US, and we will ban the US interests in Indonesia"? Why should I? Amerika dan Indonesia tidak bermusuhan. Semua negara punya kepentingan nasional. Itu sah-sah saja. Yang penting, bagaimana hubungan itu saling menguntungkan. > Wouldn't you and your family be killed by the > Comunists without the protection of the US? > Sorry, I believe in God, not US..... > > Satrio Arismunandar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Ya. Ratusan ribu orang dibantai di Indonesia pada > 1966 > atas restu dan data yang disuplai CIA kepada > Suharto.... > > Apa uang Amerika bisa mengganti nyawa ratusan ribu > (mungkin jutaan) orang Indonesia? Apa nilai uang > dollar Amerika di atas segala-galanya....???? > > Sebagian besar dari apa yang disebut "bantuan" itu > sebetulnya pinjaman, yang harus dibayar lagi dengan > bunga..... (nggak usah basa-basi ah!) > > > --- Dick Channey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It is indeed typical Indonesian behaviour: we > were > > and are happy having got the assistance and > supports > > from the United States, since 1945. At the same > time > > we keep telling, the Americans are bandits... > > > > Who has educated and trained most of our elites? > > Mujaheeddin? Talibans? Palestinians? the Hamas? > > > > Who bought and is buying Indonesian's oil? Egypt? > > Afganistan? Palestine? > > > > What has Indonesia performed to linger the fate of > > the so many poor nations in the world? Talking > and > > talking and talking.. > > > > > > > > amartien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > "gimana juga dengan kelakuan amerika yg suka > > mengulingkan pemerintahan yg sah dipilih rakyat > > seperti yg terjadi di amerika latin." > > > > Dasar dari pada pendapat ini apa? > > > > "Mungkin karena rasa bersalahnya amerika juga > perlu > > bagi-bagi dikit harta jarahannya." > > > > Contoh Amrik menjarah?. > > > > contoh menjarah: > > > > Waktu Irak nya Saddam Hussein menduduki Kuwait, > > kekayaan kuwait di jarah baik oleh pemerintahan > > Saddam maupun oleh tentaranya. Uang di bank di > > habiskan, isi dari pada museum pun di bawa ke > Irak. > > Bukan itu saja, waktu mereka di halau keluar dari > > irak oleh tentara koalisi, mereka sengaja membakar > > ladang2 minyak yang bukan saja merugikan Kuwait > > tetapi juga mempunyai dampak yang sangat negatif > > terhadap lingkungan. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri 09/03, RG Nur Rahmat < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > From: RG Nur Rahmat [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:07:44 -0700 (PDT) > > Subject: RE: [ppiindia] Bantuan Amerika > > > > _______________________________________________ > > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > > Make My Way your home on the Web - > > http://www.myway.com > > > > > > > > > *************************************************************************** > > Berdikusi dg Santun & Elegan, dg Semangat > > Persahabatan. 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