--- Danardono HADINOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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...and we saw the picture of a 9 years old Palestinian
boy, equipped with explosives under his jacket, who
has been instructed by his own people to approach
toward the Israelis soldiers...

++ im sure you saw also the picture of several 9
year-old Palestinian boys who had been killed by the
israeli missiles launched from the apache chopper,
didnt you?
 
.... and we watched at the TV and witnessing the
invasion of Iraqi's army into Kuweit...

++ and we watched at the TV the invasion of US Army
into Iraq. And now, we are still watching them still
there, pretending to be heros which turn out to be
sheer evil, just like tyrant Saddam Hussein the person
the US claim to be evil.
 
.....and we read in the newspapers about the killings
of the Kurds and the Shiites by the Saddam's regime...

++ during boycotting of 10 year-old Iraq under UN
which actually under influence of US.. about 500.000
children died. Now, after invasion under little Bush
around 40.000 - 60.000 iraqis died. US only 1000 guys
died.
 
.....and we read in the newspapers about how corrupt
the members of the Palestinian government are..

+++ you are right this time. the Palestinian gov. are
corrupt and tyrant. even the late Edward Said not
allowed to enter to palestine by yasser arafat.
palestinians people gotta struggle in two front:
against the occupation of israeli and against their
own government. 
 
there are so many things to blame...all around the
world...
but never forget the also the wrongdoings our friends
did, do and are still doing..

+++ ofcourse, my dear friend. we should not shut our
eyes up. we should keep them open towards everything.
we gotta see and critical and lets not forget to
appreciate if we see something worth enough for us to
do so. what makes me wonder is that: we tend to praise
everything that "our friends" doing and defends every
mistakes that "our friends" is or has been doing.
that's something that i see every now and then in some
comments posted here.
 
European Union transferred regurlarly money to assist
the Palestinian leader running their administration...

+++ this should be appreciated. but dont forget, that
the eu also very critical toward israel which easily
come into the deft ear of israelis gov. because they
know, nothing the world can do against israel, not
even UN, as far as the US still nodding its head for
everything the israeli gov. doing. 
 
...but instead of constructing the Nation..they keep
talking about to kill or to be killed...
...is killing the only one the people in Palestina 
interrested in?

+++ just watch bbc, cnn, read the times (london), the
guardian (london) and IHT (paris). how many people has
been killed by palestinians and how many by israelis?
when you know the equation, then start thinking all
over again..
 
in the name of Allah, in the name of justice?

+++ no cause whatsoever can justify any means.
including cause for independent on the part of
palestinian ppl or cause of "self-defense" on the
parat of israeli. 

one thing we gotta be aware when we talk about this:
that we are outsiders. and therefore, we should fully
unbias and impartial in making any judgement and
'analysis'. i dont think we should judge something
based on like or dislike. 

when we talk about israel and palestine, we should use
the internationl law as the standard of judgement, the
Covenant, the assessment of human right watch, UN
Resolution, etc. we can start from there. 

this is also as a response for mr mustadjab

cheers and peace from MANU, 

=====
Faruq Saniyasnain


        
        
                
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