QS2:30Ingatlah ketika Tuhanmu berfirman kepada para malaikat: "Sesungguhnya
Aku hendak menjadikan seorang khalifah di muka bumi". Mereka berkata:
"Mengapa Engkau hendak menjadikan (khalifah) di bumi itu orang yang akan
membuat kerusakan padanya dan menumpahkan darah, padahal kami senantiasa
bertasbih dengan memuji Engkau dan mensucikan Engkau?" Tuhan berfirman:
"Sesungguhnya Aku mengetahui apa yang tidak kamu ketahui".
...................................................................
Para malaikat tidak akan mengetahui, kecuali kalau dikasih tahu
Jadi kalau mereka mendebat tentang sifat-sifat makhluk tersebut, yang
dimaksudkan mungkin makhluk pra Adam
Ketidak mampuan malaikat untuk  mengetahui ditegaskan dalam ayat berikut
........................................................................
QS2:32Mereka menjawab: "Maha Suci Engkau, tidak ada yang kami ketahui selain
dari apa yang telah Engkau ajarkan kepada kami; sesungguhnya Engkaulah Yang
Maha Mengetahui lagi Maha Bijaksana.
......................................................................
Makhluk pra Adam itu ternyata belum begitu berbudaya, intelegensinya belum
cukup untuk melakukan hal itu mereka senang berbuat kerusakan dan
mengalirkan darah, mungkin perbandingannya di zaman ini setaraf kecerdasan
anjing
komunikasi yang terbatas, bipedal, serta kemampuan motorik tangan yang
menonjol
itu mah karangan saya.....................
samudjo
----- Original Message -----
From: "si kucing demensenyum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Re: R


>
> kalau kata agama , Adam itu manusia pertama di bumi...
> Padahal fosil mahluk berjalan tegak seperti manusia sudah ada ratusan ribu
bahkan jutaan tahun...sedangkan kalau Adam umurnya paling banyak baru 20.000
tahun ..apa mungkin ada mahluk berbudaya sebelumnya serupa manusia sebelum
Adam?
>
> Lantas tanda2 alam apa saja yang dijabarkan kitab Taurat,Injil dan Quran?
>
> Samudjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dalam penciptaan langit dan bumi
> Dan perpanjangan malam ke siang
> Terdapat tanda-tanda bagi orang yang mau berfikir
> ........................................
> Itu kutipan yat suci AlQuran yang saya ingat
> Semoga mendapatkan pencerahan, hidayat atau apapun namanya
> Yang nyari aja belum tentu ketemu, apalagi yang nggak nyari,
> ........................................
> Sebenarnya ada buku lain yang bisa dibaca:
> Seek God for the dummies
> karangan
> samudjo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "si kucing demensenyum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Re: R
>
>
> >
> > sedikit sekali referensi utk merenung kalau tulisan spinoza yg jadi
> landasan. anyway terima kasih.
> > Tapi memang Nature mendeskripsikan tuhan, kalau kita mau memahaminya.
Dan
> secara naluri kita selalu membutuhkan dan mengakui kekuatan diluar
kekuatan
> kita.
> >
> > RM Danardono HADINOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], si kucing demensenyum
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > mas RM , banyak lho orang yang tidak bisa mengenal tuhan...dengan
> > beragam sebab...
> > > contohnya yg bilang kalo ternyata tuhan gak ada......
> > > tuhan pengen memberi tahun mahluknya ttg eksistensinya menurut ku
> > malah prinsip dasar hubungan pencipta dan yg dicipta.
> > >
> > > tuhan tuh harus dicari....bukan hantu saja yg dicari seperti
> > shownya Harry Panca.....
> > >
> > > coba renungkan...
> >
> > -----------------------
> >
> > Mau merenungkan? Monggo.
> >
> > Coba kita baca referensi ini:
> >
> > God or Nature
> >
> > "On God" begins with some deceptively simple definitions of terms
> > that would be familiar to any seventeenth century philosopher. "By
> > substance I understand what is in itself and is conceived through
> > itself"; "By attribute I understand what the intellect perceives of a
> > substance, as constituting its essence"; "By God I understand a being
> > absolutely infinite, i.e., a substance consisting of an infinity of
> > attributes, of which each one expresses an eternal and infinite
> > essence." The definitions of Part One are, in effect, simply clear
> > concepts that ground the rest of his system. They are followed by a
> > number of axioms that, he assumes, will be regarded as obvious and
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