SBY pasti nggak setuju. Soalnya, kalau Walikota-nya
terlalu pinter, jangan-jangan 5 tahun mendatang dia
ikut maju di pencalonan Pemilu Presiden dan bisa
terpilih ... seperti di Iran!

Jadi SBY lebih senang pada Sutiyoso... (yang penting
aman! SBY kan safety player!)



--- Nugroho Dewanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> pinter dan berani banget nih walikota.... bisa gak
> kita
> sewa dia buat gantiin sutiyoso di jakarta....?
> 
> salam,
> 
> 
> 
> At 08:34 AM 7/20/05 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Mayor blames Middle East policy
> >
> >
> >Decades of British and American intervention in the
> oil-rich Middle East 
> >motivated the London bombers, Ken Livingstone has
> suggested.
> >The London mayor told BBC News he had no sympathy
> with the bombers and he 
> >opposed all violence.
> >But he argued that the attacks would not have
> happened had Western powers 
> >left Arab nations free to decide their own affairs
> after World War I.
> >Instead, they had often supported unsavoury
> governments in the region.
> >
> >
> >A lot of young people see the double standards
> >Ken Livingstone
> >London Mayor
> >
> >Mr Livingstone was asked on BBC Radio 4's Today
> programme what he thought 
> >had motivated the bombers.
> >He replied: "I think you've just had 80 years of
> western intervention into 
> >predominantly Arab lands because of the western
> need for oil.
> >"We've propped up unsavoury governments, we've
> overthrown ones we didn't 
> >consider sympathetic.
> >"And I think the particular problem we have at the
> moment is that in the 
> >1980s... the Americans recruited and trained Osama
> Bin Laden, taught him 
> >how to kill, to make bombs, and set him off to kill
> the Russians and drive 
> >them out of Afghanistan.
> >"They didn't give any thought to the fact that once
> he'd done that he 
> >might turn on his creators."
> >No justice?
> >Mr Livingstone said Western governments had been so
> terrified of losing 
> >their fuel supplies that they had kept intervening
> in the Middle East.
> >He argued: "If at the end of the First World War we
> had done what we 
> >promised the Arabs, which was to let them be free
> and have their own 
> >governments, and kept out of Arab affairs, and just
> bought their oil, 
> >rather than feeling we had to control the flow of
> oil, I suspect this 
> >wouldn't have arisen."
> >
> >
> >British voters don't vote in elections on foreign
> policy, and suicide 
> >bombers won't change this
> >Andrew, Cirencester, UK
> >
> >
> >He attacked double standards by Western nations,
> such as the initial 
> >welcome given when Saddam Hussein came to power in
> Iraq.
> >There was also the "running sore" of the
> Palestinian/Israeli conflict.
> >"A lot of young people see the double standards,
> they see what happens in 
> >Guantanamo Bay, and they just think that there
> isn't a just foreign 
> >policy," said Mr Livingstone.
> >Suicide bombers
> >Mr Livingstone said he did not just denounce
> suicide bombers.
> >He also denounced "those governments which use
> indiscriminate slaughter to 
> >advance their foreign policy, as we have
> occasionally seen with the 
> >Israeli government bombing areas from which a
> terrorist group will have 
> >come, irrespective of the casualties it inflicts,
> women, children and men".
> >He continued: "Under foreign occupation and denied
> the right to vote, 
> >denied the right to run your own affairs, often
> denied the right to work 
> >for three generations, I suspect that if it had
> happened here in England, 
> >we would have produced a lot of suicide bombers
> ourselves."
> >Mr Livingstone also criticised parts of the media
> for giving too much 
> >publicity to certain figures who were "totally
> unrepresentative" of 
> >British Muslims.
> >Tourist impact
> >Mr Livingstone later took questions about the
> bombings from members of the 
> >London Assembly.
> >He said the unity shown by Londoners in the wake of
> the attacks was a 
> >commemoration to those who died and showed a
> determination not to give in 
> >to terrorism.
> >The mayor said most of the Tube would be working
> normally by the end of 
> >the week and the Underground should be working as
> before by the end of the 
> >month.
> >But he warned Tube users they would have to put up
> with the kind of 
> >disruption caused by packages left on trains which
> was seen during past 
> >IRA bombing campaigns.
> >There had been "very, very little" cancellations of
> existing hotel 
> >bookings and flights to London, said Mr
> Livingstone.
> >But there had been an immediate drop in new
> bookings for long-haul flights 
> >and hotels and a "dramatic reduction" in British
> people bringing children 
> >into the capital.
> >'Naming and shaming' hotels
> >Before this month's attacks, the levels of American
> tourists visiting 
> >London were only running at 75% of the numbers seen
> before the 11 
> >September 2001 attacks in the US.
> >One way to counter the "turn down" in tourist trade
> was to attract more 
> >people from the UK and other parts of Europe, said
> Mr Livingstone.
> >Mr Livingstone said he did not have information
> about hotels raising 
> >prices for people trying to stay in London after
> the attacks.
> >But if there was evidence of "profiteering", the
> Greater London Authority 
> >would "name and shame" those hotels involved and
> refuse to do business 
> >with them in the future, he said.
> >
> >
> >Story from BBC NEWS:
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4698963.stm
> 
> 


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