a'la jangan pusing2 bah. Lihat saya - ngomong neh bisa macem2 tetapi kalau 
nulis grammar se-enaknya saja.  Dalam email kita harus santai2 memakai bah. 
campur bah. Jawa boleh campur bah. jakarta boleh kan bebas. 
Bah Ingeris juga ada macem2 dan tidak selalu sama. Bah. Ingeris saya dari 
california tercampur dgn accent dari trinidad dan Guyana  dan juga kadang2 
sulit dingerti orang2 dari Europa - dan malah orang Canada bisa salah mengerti. 
Kalau nulis dgn perpendekan juga sulit dibaca oleh non californian.
Saya kira yg penting adalah kita dpt berkommunikasi dgn email language masing2. 
Kalau salah mengerti boleh tanya. Dulu juga diwaktu saya harus menulis surat2 
dinas dalam bah Belanda atau German atau bah. lain saya salalu ada secretaris 
yg bikin betul tulisan2 saya dan saya hanya tinggal teken. Jadi bebaskanlah 
member dlm soal grammar apalagi saya . Waktu saya pertama nulis dalam email ada 
yg complain dan bilang bah. indonesia ngawur tanpa grammar dan seperti bah. 
pasaran. memang mungkin karena saya menulis langsung dgn cepat diemail. dan 
tidak memikirkan grammar at all. kita bukan ahli sastra.
Saya kira itulah teknik pemakaian email cepat dan seperti berbicara face to 
face.
That's all - pls no more grammar problems.
Andreas

tony picasso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Danardono,



Brushing up my English, huh?  Well, there’s a reason why I said “you might want 
to learn” instead of “you should learn” because with “you might want to learn”, 
I am still giving him a choice whether he wants it or not and I do not want to 
put words in his mouth, so the choice is up to him and it is merely a 
suggestion.  However, if I said “you should learn” here, I’m giving him an 
order, and I left him no choice but to follow what I said, get it brother?  

Go double check if I’m wrong, but I bet my ass I’m not and I know exactly what 
I’m talking about!!

You know what you’re problem is you often shoot from the hip.  





Don't speak too soon,



TP




Danardono HADINOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tony,  do not  say  "You might want to learn ", but: "you should learn ". What 
about brushing up your English too, brother?

Shalom

danardono




tony picasso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
Yeah Iwan, pay attention to your English too, yours is pretty lousy!   You 
might want to learn from people like; Kucing_liar, mbak Fau, Faruk, and 
Imuchtarom.  They're pretty damn good!!!

Lina Dahlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Mbok ya kalau gak tau..cari tau siapa yg 
nunjuk MUI, siapa-siapa 
saja yang duduk di MUI. 

Bukannya dah gak tau, gak peduli, eh ujung2nya ngomong the truth 
hegemony and..rubbish pula?

he..he...nama sih boleh wibawa...namun kata-katanya gak ada 
wibawanya sama sekali.

waduh!


--- In [email protected], Iwan Wibawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> kalo menurut saya sih, WHO THE HELL MUI IS ? is nothing to do with 
our religion, our life, who apointed them to be so called " chairman 
and board of MUI " no one know them except people who calls ULAMA, 
is the holder of truth hegemoni. 
> for me they are 
rubbish..............................................................
..........................?????
> WHY bother ?
> 
> Lina Dahlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "fauziah swasono" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Numpang tanya nih Mbak Lina,
> > 
> > Yang sekarang diributkan dari Fatwa MUI soal pluralisme dst itu 
> apanya> sih? Konteksnya atau istilahnya?
> > Kayaknya ada beda istilah dari yang dimaksud MUI dan yang ada di 
> kamus> (filsafat atau webster). Nah kalau kita tinggalkan soal 
> istilah,> sekarang isinya sendiri diprotes nggak?
> 
> Mbak fau,
> Kalau yang saya lihat yang diributkan oleh masyarakat adalah 
> konteksnya. Namun yang kemudian diributkan di milis ini hingga ada 
> kata-kata 'goblog' itu, ya karena perbedaan istilah saja.
> 
> Makanya saya katakan tidak usah terlalu sewot, kalau masalahnya 
> hanya soal istilah (terminologi). Ya memang kita tinggal bilang 
sama 
> MUI terminologi itu bisa diganti (kalau ada kesepakatan umum).
> 
> Memang lucu kasus MUI ini. Sudah jelas MUI telah memberikan 
> konteksnya, tapi masih saja diperdebatkan. Ya itu lah karena ada 
> barisan sakit hati.
> 
> Selebihnya saya delete karena saya sepakat dan biar threadnya gak 
> nambah panjang...:-).
> 
> Kemaren saya juga ngobrol sama seorang teman yang berharap MUI 
bisa 
> menjadi lembaga yang bisa menampung semua pemikiran. Saya 
> bertanya."apa itu tugas MUI?". MUI kan bukan tong sampah. Fatwa 
yang 
> berisikan hukum itu kan harus jelas.
> 
> wassalam wr wb.,
> 
> 
> 
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