--- In [email protected], "johnmagnum2000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], aris solikhah <fm_solihah@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> >   Miss Solehah is the best example for the disability of certain 
( > or > > the most) Indonesian University graduates to understand 
the > > religious context properly. She thinks dogmatically. She is 
unable > > to distinguish between the real thought and just 
metaphora in the > > scripture!
> > 
> >   Or I always wish and try to combine three sides en bloc. 
> Intelectuality, emotionality and spirituality. The spirit of 
> spiritual has been agented by religion. For myself, of course my 
> religion. The three combination makes people balance to reach 
their > goal and play their life. Forgive me, if my english is so bad
> >    
> >   regard,
> >   Solihah
> >   .........  means  very nice girl ^_^
> >    
> > 
> 
> john: Balanced? why are countries with people like you who always 
> put religion on thge first place, the most poor countries? the 
most > countries with violence and terrorism? inhuman and cruel?
> 
> You mentioned it "balanced"? balanced what?
> 
> Why are all technologically , socially developed countries are 
> secular?
>

Mbak Aris: berusaha menerapkan agama secara intelektual, emosional, 
dan spiritual (tidak dogmatis spt yg dituduhkan John) sehingga 
diharapkan bisa membuat kehidupan mbak Aris seimbang (bahagia dunia 
dan akhirat). Saya kira, sayapun berusaha demikian.

John : bertanya seimbang apaan? Negara yang berisi orang2 spt mbak 
Aris nyatanya adalah negara miskin, penuh kekerasan, dan teroris?

Lina : bingung [sambil teringat seseorang yg materialis disana...]. 
Pertama, mbak Aris menuju kpd kebaikan/keseimbangan persona sedang 
John kepada kebaikan/keseimbangan sebuah negara. Sepertinya John ini 
dah kenal betul sama mbak Aris.

Kedua, Apa iya negara2 miskin, penuh kekerasan, dan teroris berisi 
orang2 spt mbak Aris? Seperti apa sih mbak Aris ini? Ato mungkin 
tebulak bhw negara developed socially itu berisi orang2 yang tidak 
dogmatis, spt mbak Aris? karena berdasarkan sejarah, Jaman kegelapan 
di Barat itu akibat dogmatisasi ajaran agama (Kristen). Dan kini 
setelah mereka melepaskan diri dari dogmatisasi agama, mereka bisa 
maju? Saya kira kalo orang2 di Indonesia isinya orang2 seperti mbak 
Aris ini, sopan, tidak menggunakan kekerasan dalam berusaha, beriman 
teguh, pandai...Indonesia bakalan maju kok...:-))

Ketiga, Apa iya negara menjadi miskin, penuh kekerasan dan penuh 
teror karena orang2nya spt mbak Aris?

Ya ampuuun.

wassalam,








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