Beberapa waktu lalu, saya memposting tema ini, dan ternyata wawancara
Koran Turki dan Nasrallah (pemimpin Hizbullah) itu memang palsu.
Artikel bantahan ada di bawah ini:
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September 1, 2006
The Interview That Wasn't
Hezbollah Denounces Evrensel Interview of Nasrallah as a Fake
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
Hussain Rahhal, Hezbollah's press liaison, has issued a written statement:
"Our secretary general Nasrallah has not given any interviews to
any Turkish or other non-Lebanese journalist during the month of
August. In the face of this imaginary interview that is untruthful,
and hence does damage to journalism, credibility and objectivity,
Hezbollah reserves its right to take legal action against those who
have published it."
This is in reference to an interview purporting to be of Hezbollah's
leader,Sayeed Hassan Nasrallah, by a Turkish collective in Beirut. It
was published in Evrensel, a socialist Turkish daily, on August 12 and
13, causing some stir in the Turkish press. It was translated into
English and posted on least one left site, Marxmail, one of whose
readers forwarded it to CounterPunch. We ran excerpts from it on
August 17.
In an item last weekend I noted charges that the interview was
fraudulent, also interesting and important observations about radical
components in the Shi'a tradition, which might buttress arguments for
the interview's genuineness. I hope this particular fakery won't
discredit those insights, which are important for the left.
Hezbollah's denunciation is categorical, and should be taken as the
last word, though if there are any significant or interesting updates
we'll let CounterPunchers know. I do find Hezbollah's threat of legal
action somewhat comical. Will they also try to drag Rupert Murdoch and
Ted Turner and other barons of the First World press into the World
Court for misrepresentation? Wasn't that the hope of the proposed New
World Information Order, twenty-five or so years ago?
Postscript:
Today we received this statement from Evrensel Daily.
STATEMENT FROM EVRENSEL DAILY
ABOUT THE FORGED NASRALLAH INTERVIEW
Taylan Bilgic
Cihan Celik
Foreign News Desk
Evrensel Daily / ISTANBUL, TURKEY
It is now clearly understood that, the so-called "interview" with
Hezbollah leader, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, which appeared on our
newspaper (12th August) in Turkey is a forgery.
Press Representative of Hezbollah, Hussein Rahhal, on a question asked
by the official Anatolian Agency correspondent, replied that Nasrallah
has not conducted any interview with any Turkish journalist in August.
With this forgery, "Mutlu Sahin" and "Roza Cigdem Erdogan", the
forgers, who are members of the "Sheikh Bedreddin Film Collective"
(Turkish initials, SBFK) have attempted to tarnish the reliability of
Evrensel, a 12-years old socialist newspaper. But this is not all.
They have attempted to erode the reliability of all progressive,
antiwar, antiimperialist sources and people all over the world; as the
"interview" had far reaching consequences than they probably have
imagined in their pathetic minds.
Evrensel General Coordinator, Ihsan Caralan, has made a written
statement about the developments. This statement is printed on the 2nd
September, 2006 issue of Evrensel, from the front page... We believe
this statement will shed light into the forgery, though the real aims
and connections of the instigators are still unknown ...
Here is the statement:
"This 'interview' was sent to us by members of the Sheikh
Bedreddin Film Collective members, Mutlu Sahin and Roza Cigdem
Erdogan. The fact that these people who are known as 'documentary
filmmakers' were members of a known cultural organization is the most
important factor that we approached them without any suspicion.
These people, whose "Beirut impressions" were printed in some
other newspapers and internet sites, have also sent us, before the
said "interview", their 'Beirut impressions' and these were printed on
our paper, too.
The so-called interview with Sheikh Nasrallah included symphatetic
remarks about historical persona such as Deniz Gezmis and Che Guevera.
These remarks were found suspicious by us; but at that time our
thought was that Hezbollah, who had won the support of Islamic
circles, was attempting to erase the prejudices and suspicions in the
West and especially, in left-wing circles by these words. Our aim of
publishing the 'interview' was, our desire to reflect the developments
of an important conflict from all perspectives.
After the interview was published, there were various suspicions
raised in various circles. Because of this, we demanded from Mutlu
Sahin that he should immediately confirm that the interview was
actually done. But they have evaded us until the last minute by
continuously saying that they will confirm the interview, will present
documented evidence, make Hezbollah print the interview on their
website etc.
When the news of Anatolian Agency was put into service, we
immediately sent the text to them via Windows Messenger. After reading
the message, and without making any comment, Mutlu Sahin became
offline and from then on, did not answer our phone calls.
As obvious to all, this attitude amounts to nothing more than an
'unqualified forgery'. Our newspaper, since the beginning, has uphold
the principles of peoples' right to true information and learning the
truth. But another principle of our newspaper is follow-up. Thus, we
will continue to seek and tell the truth about these people and the
figures behind them, if there are any.
These people are responsible for cheating us and thus, making us
the instrument of the dissemination of false information. But
nevertheless, we cannot evade our own responsibility as the newspaper
who printed this false interview. We have encountered such a situation
for the first time in our history and this teaches us again that
meticulousness in newsmaking should never be forgotten.
We sincerely apologize from our readers, from the various
publications (online or print) who trusted us and printed this text
and those who translated the text to various languages and sent it to
various news resources."
And here is another recent development from the film collective.
This piece of news below also appeared on Evrensel on 2nd September.
SBFK did not even apologize
Mutlu Sahin and Roza Cigdem Erdogan, who had their names on the
fake interview are nowhere to be found. Meanwhile, SBFK made an
announcement yesterday:
"This sudden development about the interview was totally
unexpected. SBFK Press Representative Yilmaz Kilickaya, Foreign
Relations Coordinator Zafer Hanoglu, members Roza Cigdem Erdogan,
Berfin Gunes and Esra Celik, have gone to Beirut to inform the public
and put an end to the debate.
After weekend, they will inform the public on behalf of SBFK,
which Hezbollah representatives will also attend.
We had declared that we retain some of our rights. We will explain
these rights in this last information we will give.
From now on, the drawees are not Roza Cigdem Erdogan or Mutlu
Sahin, but our collective. Until this last information meeting, we
deem our friends innocent. After that last moment in which all debate
will be put an end, their duties and authorities are suspended
temporarily. We also note that we will not take seriously the attacks
and insults circulating the internet against our collective and our
members.
--- In [email protected], Satrio Arismunandar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dari milis tetangga:
>
> Satrio
> =========================
>
> Salam,
>
> Di bawah ini ada wawancara Koran Turki "Evrensel"
> dengan Pemimpin
> Hizbullah Hasan Nasrallah. "Evrensel" adalah koran
> berhaluan kiri
> (sosialis).
>
> Wawancara ini menarik, karena berlawanan dengan
> anggapan pengamat
> Barat, Nasrallah (yang ulama Shiah) fasih berbicara
> tentang
> sosialisme, tentang Hugo Chavez dan Che Guevara. Para
> pengamat Barat
> umumnya akan mengharap "teroris" ini bicara soal jihad
> dan jargon
> Islam lainnya.
>
> Beberapa kalangan di Turki sendiri meragukan wawancara
> itu, dan
> menganggap mustahil seorang ulama Shiah bicara tentang
> sosialisme.
>
> Saya sendiri tidak tahu persis, dan tidak punya alat
> untuk membuat
> verifikasi. Namun, anggapan dasar di Barat bahwa ulama
> Shiah adalah
> "teroris yang terbelakang, kolot dan dogmatis" bisa
> sangat keliru.
>
> Anggapan seperti itu pernah dinisbahkan kepada
> Ayatollah Khomeini,
> misalnya. Dan berlawanan dengan anggapan itu, Khomeini
> memang belajar
> filsafat Barat, termasuk Marxisme (yang dia kritik).
> Khomeini
> mengkritik Marxisme dan Leninisme dengan fasih karena
> dia
> mempelajarinya.
>
> Orang juga mungkin akan keliru jika menganggap
> Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
> "teroris dengan ambisi membalikkan dunia ke masa
> silam". Dia
> menerjemahkan puisi-puisi Iqbal.
>
> Nasrallah dibesarkan dalam tradisi Shiah yang kaya
> secara intelektual.
> Ini bukan keanehan. Kita misalnya mengenal tokoh-tokoh
> Shiah seperti
> Murtaza Mutahhari dan Ali Syariati yang mengkritik
> Marxisme secara
> fundamental karena mereka mempelajarinya.
>
> Satu hal yang menurut saya perlu ditiru para
> ulama/kiai Sunni di sini
> adalah secara benar mempelajari hal-hal yang dia
> kritik, termasuk
> filsafat Barat yang mereka kecam, agar bisa
> mengkritiknya secara
> benar, bukan hanya demen mencuplik ayat Qur'an dan
> hadits Nabi.
>
> Di bawah ini, wawancara lengkapnya. Saya kutip dari
> Counterpunch.
>
> August 17, 2006
> "Goodbye to the Unipolar World"
> The Nasrallah Interview
>
> By CounterPunch News Service
> http://www.counterpunch.org/nasrallah08172006.html
>
>
> From an interview conducted shortly before the
> ceasefire by reporters
> from the Turkish Labor Party daily, Evrensel.
>
> Q. What is the current state of your relations with
> the Socialist
> movement?
>
> Hasan Nasrallah: The socialist movement, which has
> been away from
> international struggle for a considerable time, at
> last has begun to
> offer moral support for us once again. The most
> concrete example of
> this has been Hugo Chavez, the President of Venezuela.
> What most of
> the Muslim states could not do has been done by
> Chavez, by the
> withdrawal of Venezuela's ambassador to Israel. He
> furthermore
> communicated to us his support for our resistance.
> This has been an
> immense source of moral strength for us.
>
> We can observe a similar reaction within the Turkish
> Revolutionary
> Movement. We had socialist brothers from Turkey who
> went to Palestine
> in 1960s to fight against Israel. And one of them
> still remains in my
> memory and my heart; Deniz Gezmis..!
>
> [Deniz Gezmis, 1947-1972, was a Turkish revolutionary
> in the
> Marxist-Leninist tradition. He led major student
> actions in the late
> 1960s, went to a Fatah training camp in Lebanon in
> late 1969, returned
> to Turkey where his group seized four US army privates
> in Ankara.
> After their release of the soldiers, Gezmis was
> captured, tried for
> attempting to overthrow the Turkish state and, with
> two of his
> comrades, was hanged in the central prison in Ankara
> on May 6, 1972.
> Editors.]
>
> Q. What is the importance of Denizs for you?
>
> Hasan Nasrallah: We now want new Denizs. Our ranks are
> always open to
> new Denizs against the oppressors. Deniz will always
> live in the
> hearts of the peoples of Palestine and Lebanon. No-one
> should doubt
> this. Unfortunately, there is no longer a common fight
> and fraternity
> against the common enemy left over by the Denizs. What
> we would have
> liked is for our socialist brothers in Lebanon to
> fight against
> imperialism and Zionism shoulder to shoulder. This
> fight is not only
> our fight. It is the common fight of all those
> oppressed across the
> world. Don't forget that if the peoples of Palestine
> and Lebanon lose
> this war, this will mean the defeat of all the
> oppressed people of the
> world. In our fight against imperialism, the
> revolutionaries should
> also undertake a responsibility and should become, in
> the hearts of
> our people of Palestine and Lebanon, Denizs once
> again.
>
> Q. It is possible to see the posters of Che, Chavez
> and Ahmadinejad
> side by side in the streets of Beirut. Are these the
> signs of a new
> polarization?
>
> Hasan Nasrallah: We salute the leaders and the peoples
> of Latin
> America. They have resisted the American bandits
> heroically and have
> been a source of moral strength for us. They are
> guiding the way for
> the oppressed peoples. Go and wonder around our
> streets..! You will
> witness how our people have embraced Chavez and
> Ernesto Che Guevara.
> Nearly in every house, you will come across posters of
> Che or Chavez.
>
> What we are saying to our socialist friends who want
> fight together
> with us for fraternity and freedom is: Do not come at
> all if you are
> going to say "Religion is an opiate". We do not agree
> with this
> analysis. Here is the biggest proof of this in our
> streets with the
> pictures of Chavez, Che, Sadr and Khamenei together.
> These leaders are
> saluting our people in unison. So long as we respect
> your beliefs, and
> you respect ours, there is no imperialist power we
> cannot defeat!
>
> Q. Returning to threats in the region, western
> governments are
> intensifying their pressure on Damascus and Tehran,
> for which they are
> proposing a "change of regime." Some sources are of
> the view that the
> attack on Lebanon will be directed on Syria. According
> to your point
> of view, is a regional war possible?
>
> Hasan Nasrallah: The centers of imperialist power want
> to make
> collaborators of our region as a whole. They expect us
> to kneel before
> them. Syria, Iran and Hezbollah are opposing this. The
> provocation
> concerning the former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik
> Hariri and the
> efforts to secure the withdrawal of the Syrian army
> from Lebanon and
> -- going even further -- their wish to attack
> callously on to Tehran
> and Damascus are all due to this reason.
>
> Syria, with Iran and Hezbollah will certainly resist
> this. We are
> going to resist for our motherland and freedom. We are
> going to resist
> in order not kneel before them. The imperialists of
> the west are
> seeking to make a second Kosovo out of Lebanon and our
> region. They
> are seeking to create a clash in between sects. But we
> have spoiled
> this trick. In our streets, the whole of Lebanon, with
> its Christian,
> Sunnis and Shias, are flying the flags of Hezbollah.
> Again, "the
> unipolar world" has already been left behind in
> history. There is us,
> there is Iran, there is Syria, there is Venezuela,
> Cuba and North
> Korea. There are the resisting peoples of Palestine,
> Iraq and
> Afghanistan! As long as there is imperialism and
> occupations, these
> people will continue resisting. They can forget about
> peace. If they
> want peace, they should now respect the freedom of
> peoples and should
> eliminate the collaborators. God willing, the victory
> will be ours.
>
> They are not going to be able to turn our country and
> region into a
> Kosovo. Now our people are aware of everything and
> will not play into
> imperialist tricks. We will absolutely not permit them
> to attack Iran
> or Syria. We are going to fight for our freedom to the
> last drop of
> our blood. Let no one doubt this. They are claiming
> that Iran has
> nuclear weapons at its disposal. On the contrary, most
> of the nuclear
> weapons are in the hands of Israel and the US.
> Furthermore, nuclear
> weapons are nothing but excuses put forward in order
> to create
> collaborating regimes in the region.
>
> Q. There are claims that Hezbollah is being directed
> by Tehran. What
> are your views on this issue?
>
> Hasan Nasrallah: This is a great lie. We are an
> independent Lebanese
> organization. We do not take orders from anyone. But
> this does not
> mean that we are not going to form alliances. We are
> on the side of
> Iran and Syria. They are our brothers. We are going to
> oppose any
> attack directed at Tehran and Damascus to the last
> drop of our blood
> just as we do in Lebanon. We uphold global resistance
> against global
> imperial terrorism.
>
> Q. Is there any other additional point you want to
> make?
>
> Hasan Nasrallah: Peace cannot be unilateral. So long
> as there is
> imperialism in the world, a permanent peace is
> impossible. This war
> will not come to an end as long as there are
> occupations in Iraq,
> Afghanistan and Palestine.
>
> Editors' Note: The authenticity of this interview has
> been challenged,
> maybe because Nasrallah doesn't speak entirely
> according to
> Orientalist expectations of what a Shi'a leader should
> be saying.
> CounterPunch has confirmed that the interview did
> appear in the
> Turkish socialist daily Evrensel on August 12 and 13,
> provoking
> comment in the Turkish corporate press because
> Nasrallah expressed his
> admiration for the 1960's generation of
> revolutionaries like Deniz
> Gezmis.
>
>
>
>
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