to hot cpu a lot of dell systems have this duct it draws air in at front of duct and passes it over a massive heat sink then ejects it out the back best keep cover closed unless u know the entire airflow plan and how opening a cover will affect it

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  1. Re: jeopardy this wednesday,       not prime related / mailing-list
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:13:41 -0500 (EST)
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Jeopardy is a trivia game show in the United States of America and ABC Network, which is channel 7 in the Los Angeles area.


Sincerely yours, Danny Karl Fleming


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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:47:32 -0500, steve elias wrote:<br><br>>at this time i would like to make the un-prime-related announcement<br>>that my childhood friend Jeff Richmond will be on 
the game<br>>show jeopardy this wednesday to play against the all-time<br>>champion dude.  Jeff is also one of the all-time Jeopardy champs.<br><br>I have to ask - in which country 
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for those who are interested, please
check http://jeopardy.com for more info on the "ultimate tournament of champions". there's a web page about my old pal Jeff Richmond
who will be on wednesday's show.


in other USA TV news, this time definitely prime-related:
a theme of an episode
of an episode of the new crime drama _NUMB3RS_ was the Riemann hypothesis, and a
mathematician who thought he had
solved it, and some criminals who wanted to use it to break encryption
on the internet.  silly but it's nice to see the Riemann & primes get some
prime-time respect.

regards,

Steve Elias

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Jeopardy is a trivia game show in the United States of America and ABC Network, which is channel 7 in the Los Angeles area.

Sincerely yours, Danny Karl Fleming




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Sorry to dig up a dead thread, but I was away on vacation last week and could not respond in a proper manner via BlackBerry.

I've prepared a spreadsheet detailing just how much power a modern Dell is
using at various times. See: <http://getty.net/gimps/dells.xls> for power
use on a Dell OptiPlex GX 270 small form factor computer at 3.2 GHz and 1 GB
of RAM.

Unfortunately due primarily to the noise of the fans, and partially due to
the heat, I have not been able to deploy a GIMPS client in our computer
labs. In an amphitheater with 102 machines, all on top of the tables, it
gets so loud with PrimeNT running that you can't have a conversation at a
normal level.

I'm close to deploying a system that will start the prime service shortly
after the labs close and stop the prime service shortly before the labs open
to avoid the noise problem. Running PrimeNT at 104.5 hours a week on 350
2.8+ GHz machines is better then not running it at all!

-Marc

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Subject: Re: [Prime] hot CPU!


That's interesting about the Dells. What I have noted (especially in the
smaller case Optiplex systems), is that the fan noise is intolerably
loud when P95 is running. Crack the clamshell case a bit, and the fan
speed and noise drops considerably. I'm not sure that makes things
WORSE, as the air path is still through the duct and over the heatsink,
whether the case is closed or cracked open.

These high end P4 systems generate a LOT of heat. I wouldnt be
surprised if the CPU's go down a little sooner running P95 than they
would just grinding idle.




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Jeff Woods wrote:


At 2/16/2005 11:56 PM, Jud McCranie wrote:



Is a 3GHz P4 supposed to be this hot? Is it bad for the machine?


Yes, and yes. I have found that without additional CPU case fans, a





fully-laden CPU (as with Prime95) gets too hot for JUST the power


supply

fan to circulate enough air. You need additional case fans... or


you

need to run with the case OPEN (side panel off) to allow the hot air





that the CPU fan is pulling away to dissipate.



Dell P4 systems don't HAVE a internal CPU heatsink fan. they have a
large muffin fan on the back panel with a plastic air duct over the LARGE CPU
heat sink. On the newer faster P4 systems, the heatsink is often fine vaned
copper.


opening the cover would make things WORSE as it would not force the air
to flow as engineered. The cases on our Dell desktop "Optiplex" systems at
work hinge open and can't be "left off".





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