Jim,

The entity status (CE or BA) of the organization to which you disclose
is not the issue here.
Your organization, as a CE is allowed to disclose PHI for the purposes
of payment (among others) without client authorization (or consent as a
health plan).  

The definition of payment at 164.501 includes "determinations of
eligibility or coverage (including coordination of benefits or the
determination of cost sharing amounts) and adjudication or subrogation
of health benefit claims."
The comments related to payment are also helpful.  

Note that the minimum necessary rule does apply, so only the amount of
information that your org. needs to release to find out an subrogation
issues should be released. 

Leah Hole-Curry
Fox Systems, Inc.
602-708-1045

>>> "Jim Moores" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/27/02 08:42 AM >>>
Hi All,

  Have any of the payers on the list confronted the problem of how
health plans getting Disclosure Authorization to subrogate claims with
auto/property/casualty/hazard insurance companies...  For example,
because the auto insurer is not a CE nor a BA how can the Health Plan
share PHI with the auto insurer when it is looking for them to subrogate
the claim. Getting authorization from the member is going to be hard
because they have no motivation to provide it and may actually have a
disincentive to do so because they do not want their auto insurance
rates to go up. The auto co won't subrogate without the information.

  Tips on where to go to get guidance or thoughts on the matter would be
much appreciated....




Jim Moores - HIPAA Team Leader - Privacy
Antares Management Solutions
23700 Commerce Park Road
Beachwood, Ohio   44122-5832

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