I don't clearly see banks as clearinghouses (do the functions they
perform actually rise to the definitional requirements under HIPAA for a
healthcare clearinghouse?)-- but I can see a number of instances in
which banks could be "business associates."  Banks can be "business
associates" particularly if they furnish lock box services,
handle/receive ACH or other electronic transfers from payers on behalf
of providers and there is any PHI on checks, correspondence or other
remittance documentation that accompanies the payments.  Several years
ago there was a decided trend toward providers using lock box
arrangements as a cost containment concept and as part of perhaps a
larger commercial lending arrangement that gave added security to the
lenders.  Another financing vehicle that would result in the use or
disclosure of PHI would be the securitization of patient accounts
receivable when potentially a provider would "sell" its patient accounts
receivable to a third party financier to raise capital and the third
party would be responsible for collecting the receivables from patients
or payers itself.

In the smaller provider market, banks that handle all business banking
relationships with smaller provider groups and offer cash flow financing
(an asset or accounts receivable based line of credit) may also require
periodic receivables agings that potentially contain patient names.

Leslie C. Bender, Esq.


-----Original Message-----
From: Drexler, Deborah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: questions on the appropriate way to reply when there are
errors in a transaction request


At the HIPAA summit in DC I just attended, there was talk of how the
banking industry is just starting to realize that they have to be HIPAA
compliant. Apparently banks are often clearinghouses and subject to the
HIPAA rules.  I didn't really understand much more than that. 

Deborah Drexler
Privacy and Security Officer
Division of Medical Assistance
Boston, MA 02111
617-210-5372
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-----Original Message-----
From: Meyers, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:44 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; Bill Chessman; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: RE: questions on the appropriate way to reply when there are
errors in a transaction request


Well almost......

The Transaction regulation clearly requires some contractual
relationship between the CE and the bank.

However, page 50318, Federal Register dated August 17, 2002 states, "The
administrative simplification provisions of HIPAA do not require
non-covered entities to use the standards, but non-covered entities are
encouraged to do so in order to achieve the benefits available from such
use."

The bank does not have to accept or process HIPAA compliant
transactions. The bank cannot be out of HIPAA compliance at any time
because they are not subject to HIPAA.  The bank is subject to GLB
privacy provisions for the data it has under its control.

You as the CE will be OK if your contract spells out the needed HIPAA
language.

Edward Meyers
Security Officer
Missouri Department of Mental Health [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:25 PM
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Subject: RE: questions on the appropriate way to reply when there are
errors in a transaction request


Would you not have to have a "Chain of Trust" relationship, and a Trust
Partner Agreement with the Bank in question for all importation
exchange?  I think so.  Without it, you are liable.  So the simple
answer is, the bank would have to be HIPAA compliant for all areas and
systems that receive and use that identified information.  Sounds like a
new business opportunity for a smart bank!  HIPAA Compliant Banking
Services!!!  Any Bank VP's listening out there?  Anyone own bank stock
who wants to write a letter to your bank CEO?

Regards,

Dr. Tim McGuinness, Ph.D.
Sr. Compliance Specialist & Solutions Architect
Certified HIPAA Chief Privacy Officer
DynTek Inc.
www.dyntek.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Chessman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 1:31 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: questions on the appropriate way to reply when there are
errors in a transaction request


This may not be the right place to ask this question (and it might not
even be reasonable or valid), but since the thread is running here, I
might as well throw it out:  If an 835 contains patient information
(even the patient
name) is sent to an organization not required to be HIPAA compliant,
isn't it a violation of the patient's privacy rules?  The bank may not
use the information, but since it's in the transaction, it is visible to
a
(theoretically) unauthorized party.

Best regards,
Bill Chessman
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


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