Dylan Jay wrote:
Are other people finding is hard to find good plone integrators/developers that need work?


I think a more fair comparison would be zope against j2ee:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=jboss%2C+zope%2C+GlassFish%2C+JEUS&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

In that comparison, Zope is no so bad, although the search volume is decreasing.

A serious problem we have in our company, menttes work just with Plone, is how expensive is to add/train new developers. Is very hard to find python or zope developers out there. So, we've to train every new person in all the stack, and this is a big investment for a small company.

Anyway, I believe the better way to deal with this issue is to promote Python, Zope and Plone. We need to promote more the technology, we need to foster user groups and organize activities to increase the community. User groups meets advanced users and then, they spread the use of the technology. Just check what's Sun doing, they're investing a lot in meeting and creating communities.

I agree when people say Plone is not for the masses and it's not our market the php/publishing one. But we should be more agressive in the component framework one. How many people you find in the street knowing j2ee, how many knowing zope ?. It would be great if you find people with python/zope knowledge as you find with java/j2ee.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=python%2C+java&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0


To do that, the only idea i've is to invest in promotion, evangelization, convince the governments to use the technology (they're great creators of community) and doing big efforts to spread the technology.

Also, open training helps a lot, and that's not necessarily an investment.

So... after all these words, you're invited to join the World Plone Day if you're not part of it already :D

http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/world-plone-day

Kind Regards
r.

obs: trends is not the most accurate way to measure what's happening out there... but probably is an approximation.

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