Dylan Jay wrote:
Martin Aspeli wrote:
Hi guys,
Following a long discussion with Dylan Jay (buried in another thread
on Devilstick terminology), I thought I'd conduct an informal poll.
==> As a customiser of Plone, or as someone wanting to build bespoke
components that extend Plone, what do you find most confusing?
I think this could fall into a few categories:
- Areas where there's insufficient/poor documentation, but once you
learn how to do something, it's clear how to proceed.
- Areas where there appears to be more than one approach, and it's
not clear which one to choose
- Areas where Plone doesn't appear to have a good way to do something
I think it hurts the most when something goes wrong. I write something
that I think should work, it doesn't, suddenly I'm faced with understand
everything I'm relying on.
Debugging is a nightmare. Perhaps I'm not using the right tools. but
generally I try to read the code, which with the amount of indirection
these days is pretty hard to read. The fact thats its not obvious where
the definition the code I'm after is makes it harder. For instance I was
trying to find the schema definitions fot ATCT the other day... and
thats just z2. Trying to work out how to the standard templates got
connected in in plone.z3cform was even harder.
I'm not 100% sure how to fix this. A tutorial on how to read code?
The slow startup time makes this worse of course because one way to try
and fix things is to try different stuff and see what happens.
another example from yesterday. I wanted to override the standard plone
search.pt form. I want to keep using browser views. When I typed /search
(without the @@) it would give me the old form, but if I did this in a
subfolder I get my new form.
So first thing I try to do is search the web. traversal precedence and
stuff like that. No luck.
Imagine you're learning this stuff. How do you know what to do next?
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