gratefulfrog wrote:
Martin Aspeli wrote:
==> As a customiser of Plone, or as someone wanting to build bespoke
components that extend Plone, what do you find most confusing?
Well, I've been trying to get started on making a plone site for several
weeks now and still haven't managed to get into it. I've got Martin's book,
read tons of tutorials, watched video tutorials, chatted on the IRC, etc.
but haven't been able to get a good idea of
* how plone/zope is structured,
* where to find a good example to start from and make it solve my problem
(forms and data entry/view),
* what you have to do to build a plone site, even at the highest level,
e.g. define the main page templates, set up menus and interaction, etc.
So I'd say I'd most need a comprehensive worked example of building (not
using) a genuine site. take a look at the django documenation for
reasonable examples. (I may have to give up on plone and start over with
django which I don't know either but which seems more approachable).
I certainly feel your pain. I think you've highlighted the problem well
in that perhaps its not that there isn't documentation there but its not
high level enough. Theres loads of tutorials which togeather give the
collected wisdom but its hard to tell which are the ones to read.
I'm trying to fix that by collecting links to most fundamental best
practice tutorials on one page.
http://www.openplans.org/projects/plonecheatsheet
I'd certainly like you help. If you can put in sections that perhaps
state what you solution you want and leave the title and how part with
??? to indicate you need and answer. or just ask your questions to the list.
by "forms and data entry/view" it sounds like what you are after a
database driven form or new content type. Is that right?
I'm sorry if this may not be the right place for this remark, but I'm really
sad that I can't get into this framework, even though I'm a good python
programmer, and expert lisp/c/c++ programmer. It's also sad that other
friends, also expert programmers, even better than me have also given up on
plone for lack of a comprehensive starting point.
If anyone out there wants to help with my conservation project for the
Galapagos, please let me know. I've already obtained a generous gift of
plone hosting, but I'm floundering. There's no money in it, nor glory,
saving the planet is like that. I do it beyond my daytime job.
I encourage you to try and ask your questions to this or the users list
and also to help us create better documentation. The rewards are there.
Once you become productive with plone, its amazingly flexible and has so
much power out of the box.
Dylan.
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