Alexander Limi wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:04:33 -0700, Andreas Zeidler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
please don't get me wrong here, but what warrants a widely posted
announcement on behalf of the "plone community", especially when there
seemed to be some agreement to do something like this two weeks before
the next packaging deadline and, more importantly, _not_ on weekends?
Yeah, I made similar comments about timing etc, but I didn't want to block
the energy behind this effort just because it didn't fit the discussed
schedule. And it lead to quite a number of bugs getting fixed, so I think
it was worth it, and a good inaugural new-style bug day. :)
fair enough, and i surely didn't want to sound too negative. i do
appreciate the effort. but after the last not so successful attempts on
doing bug days, i think we need to try to get as many people involved
and also focus on just one regular event instead of potentially many
(the name doesn't matter that much to me, btw).
so if this is to be the "official" plone community effort —- and the
announcement did indeed sound that way -- i think we should very soon
find a schedule that suites as many developers as possible and then
stick to it. moving things around and announcing follow-up event one by
one, potentially with differing schedules, won't get us far...
i know it's possible for me and other to host our own "tune-up rally" as
gabrielle pointed out elsewhere, but imo this will only lead to
scattered events with only a handful of people showing up (if at all)
and the same outcome we've seen before, i.e. discontinued.
perhaps it's only me, but i don't think the (active) community is big
enough just yet to be able to have various events of this type. instead
we should focus on one and try to make it work for more people. iow,
let's continue the discussion we started and come to a conclusion...
in that sense, here's another idea: if we are to have bi-weekly events,
how about alternating their times to better suite the two main (sets of)
time zones and perhaps also make them a bit longer so people from "the
other side" can still join in?
iow, let's fix the schedule and stick to it so everybody knows well in
advance an can plan accordingly. sounds a bit lame, but afaics most of
us are way too busy these days to be spontaneous... :) in addition, we
should make an effort to find people to host these for say the next 3
months for a start...
I wanted to see how the Six
Feet Up crew did with as few road blocks as possible, and I think they did
well.
i can see the point, but still think it would have been —- or let's say
would be :) -- much better to have a coordinated effort instead of
someone just trying out something in the middle of an ongoing
discussion. like i said, i do appreciate gabrielle and calvin's
efforts, but would have liked them to let at least briefly bring up and
discuss their plans here before making an announcement (in the name of
"the plone community").
cheers,
andi
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