Dave, > Having investigated the problem further and unless anyone can prove me wrong, > there is no way of having a visually designed Form with a visually designed > toolbar which is docked in the aforesaid form.
The same principle applies to the VFP statusbar and menubar as well. One possible solution, albeit more complicated than its probably worth<g> 1. Create placeholder container classes for your menubar, toolbars and statusbar so that these items take up physical space on your design form. Note that the menubar and statusbar containers won't automatically adjust their heights based on system menu font settings but a builder could do this. 2. Place your tradional form contents in its own container. 3. In your form Init(): - remove the placeholder containers - shift the main form container to 0,0 - resize the form to account for the removed placeholder containers As I said ... seems more trouble than its worth? Malcolm _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

