Israel fire at who they like, and act with impunity, because they know
that their bigger brother - the US - will always defend them.   

If you really, truly believe that Israel are not bad guys, then you are
deluded.

Regards

Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP
Third Party Developer Program Senior Software Engineer 

* Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074
*   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

"I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design:
One way is to make it so simple there are obviously no deficiencies, and
the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies." -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award Lecture 1980


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Michael Madigan
Sent: 28 July 2006 09:33
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] CNN called Hezbollah "David" and Israel "Golliath"

Hezbollah killed 241 US Marines in 1983, I think I know who the bad guys
are.  They put their rocket launchers in hospitals, I think I know who
the bad guys are.  Israel left lebanon 6 years ago and Hezbollah was
supposed to disarm, I think I know who the bad guys are.  Hesbollah is
funded by Iran, I think I know who the bad guys are. 

If Israel laid down their arms, they would be slaughtered, if Hezbollah
laid down their arms, there would be peace.

--- Dominic Burford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> << Well I see the BBC isn't giving you the same information we're 
> getting.
> 
> It seems to me like your coverage is overly sensationalising the 
> coverage, and deliberately negatively biasing the coverage to make 
> Israel look like the good guys.  I have no idea what you have watched,

> but it does not converge with what I have watched.
> There are no good
> guys on either side of this conflict.  Neither side can claim the 
> moral the high ground.  If you think Israel can, then you have not 
> been paying close enough attention (or getting your news from a biased

> source).  The US has long supported Israel, and so it is no surprise 
> that your news coverage is biased in this direction.  In fact, many 
> commentators are calling it a war not between Israel and Lebanon, but 
> the US and Iran.
> 
> We can debate the rights and wrongs of this all day, but none of it 
> makes the situation any better.  And our weak politicians are too 
> pathetic to stand up to either side, as they both have their own 
> agendas.
> 
> The US will never openly condemn Israel.  It is no coincidence that 
> your news coverage always seems to paint Israel's enemies as the bad 
> guys (Palestine, Lebanon, getting the picture yet?)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP
> Third Party Developer Program Senior Software Engineer
> 
> * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design:
> One way is to make it so simple there are obviously no deficiencies, 
> and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no 
> obvious deficiencies." -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award Lecture 1980
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: 28 July 2006 08:59
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: RE: [OT] CNN called Hezbollah "David" and Israel "Golliath"
> 
> Well I see the BBC isn't giving you the same information we're 
> getting.
> 
> Hezbollah has set up inside of hospitals, schools, apartment 
> buildings, factories, etc.  They believe that Israel won't go after 
> them in those locations.
> They have stockpiles of munitions in basements of apartment buildings,

> as well as underground bunkers set in the middle of civilian 
> population, and are using Ambulances to transport munitions.
> 
> The UN post that was bombed, was actually being used as a shield by 
> the Hezbollah.  It was no accident that it was targeted, Israel is 
> just saying it was an accident.
> 
> Unfortunately, Hezbolah has very strong support in the south, and now 
> their supporters are dying too.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Dominic Burford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > How can killing innocent lives ever be the *right*
> thing.  Israel are
> > not just targetting Hezbollah, they are also
> targeting areas where
> > civilians are located.  They have even destroyed
> hospitals and the
> > roads out of lebanon, so it is difficult for
> civilians to flee the
> > country.
> > Hezbollah are wrong to have started this whole
> conflict in the first
> > place.
> > 
> > There is never any justification for killing
> innocent life.  That is
> > what separates a civilised society from the
> barbarians.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP
> > Third Party Developer Program Senior Software
> Engineer
> > 
> > * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > "I conclude that there are two ways of
> constructing a software design:
> > One way is to make it so simple there are
> obviously no deficiencies,
> > and the other way is to make it so complicated
> that there are no
> > obvious deficiencies." -- Tony Hoare, Turing Award
> Lecture 1980
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan
> > Sent: 28 July 2006 08:37
> > To: ProFox Email List
> > Subject: RE: [OT] CNN called Hezbollah "David" and
> Israel "Golliath"
> > 
> > They are doing the right thing.  They're allowing
> Israel to wipe out
> > the terrorists.
> > 
> > --- Dominic Burford
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > What I find surprising is that no-one has called
> > for an immediate
> > > ceasefire.  And when key politicians are asked
> > why, they give excuses
> > > that they need to draft a 'sustainable
> ceasefire'.
> > > I don't see why you
> > > can't ask for an immediate ceasefire, while you
> > are working on your
> > > long term negotiations.  It could take
> days/weeks
> > to draft a ceasefire
> > 
> > > that satisfies both sides.  In the meantime,
> each
> > side continues to
> > > both the hell out of the other, with more loss
> of
> > innocent life.
> > > 
> > > Condi, Bush, Blair et al are all weak to do the
> > right thing.  We need
> > > politicians who have backbones, and are not
> afraid
> > to do what is
> > > right, even if it means upsetting a few people
> > along the way.
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP Third Party Developer Program 
> > > Senior Software
> > Engineer
> > > 
> > > * Tel: +44 (0) 1536 495074
> > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > "I conclude that there are two ways of
> > constructing a software design:
> > > One way is to make it so simple there are
> > obviously no deficiencies,
> > > and the other way is to make it so complicated
> > that there are no
> > > obvious deficiencies." -- Tony Hoare, Turing
> Award
> > Lecture 1980
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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