If it turns out that laptops cause cancer, Dell and Toshiba will be in a lot of trouble too.
--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing that amazes me about this scenario that I > havent heard anybody > else mention. > > 1. It is legal to manufacture and distribute > cigarettes, BUT it is illegal > for a business owner (restaurant / bar) to allow you > to smoke cigarettes > that were legally made and purchased ? > 2. It is legal to manufacture and distribute > firearms for personal > protection or sport, BUT it is ok for some of our > government to sue these > same firearm manufacturers because of crazy people > that should be lined up > against a wall to start with. > 3. It is legal to manufacture and sell automobiles > using a technology that > has been around for at least 70 years (gasoline), > but a state thinks that it > can sue these same manufacturers that go about their > business legally ? > > Talk about a bunch of hypocrites'...!!! > > We have become a world where we punish everybody > because of the actions of a > few... > Something is backwards there, at least in my > opinion... > > Virgil Bierschwale > Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate > (830) 329-6774 Cell > (830) 864-4726 Home > (830) 864-4799 Fax > http://www.geocities.com/vbierschwale/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of ken.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:40 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] California sues automakers > > I agree with all that. We have a terrible system. > > In fact, electricity is the answer because it > creates no pollution in the > vehicle. Limit the pollution to a smaller number of > sites > so there is some possibility of getting it under > control. Limiting pollution > in a car running on a polluting fuel is absurd. It > is > like writing an accounts receivable system for > General Motors in C or > herding cats. > > How the electricity is created is the > question/problem. Focus on the > problem. What we have now is a crippled system > caused (my > opinion) by cheap oil. That is changing now and we > will see alternatives > that are better. Just saying it is expensive or this > and > that will not get us to a solution. The first step > is to stop individual > people from polluting. The government cannot force > you to > buy a diesel Volkswagen instead of a Chevrolet > pickup. But the government > can say that all vehicles must meet a certain > specification. Then we can work on the power plants. > Right now, in > California we have 30+ million polluters. In my > opinion it is > like income tax. Which would you rather do, collect > money from 300 million > people with constitutional rights or 10 million > businesses with no constitutional rights? The IRS > spends 30 cents of every > dollar it collects enforcing the collection. It is a > > no-brainer. Collecting from 300 million people in a > free society is a stupid > idea, absurd and unrealistic to say the least. It > would impossible to collect 100% from 10 million > businesses, but at least it > is a possibility. It is not laughable. A business > has > no personal rights. The government can come in at > any time and look at the > books. I know this from personal experience. It is > more > realistic to control corporations. The government > can regulate how > electricity is made by corporations. The focus needs > to be on a > possible and realistic solution. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Felton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:01 PM > Subject: RE: [OT] California sues automakers > > > While Electric/Hybrid cars do have reduced or "no" > emissions the power they > consume creates as much or more emissions as the > cars would have created. > Where does the electric you put into the Electric > car come from? A coal > burning electric power plant or a nuclear electric > power plant? Oh wait a > minute, the answer is hydrogen, well maybe not, and > it takes more energy to > produce the hydrogen than it takes to power the car > with gasoline. I know I > don't have the answer and I agree we need to find a > better answer, don't > assume that the "Clean - Electric/Hybrid Cars" are > the answer. > > Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of David Crooks > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:14 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: RE: [OT] California sues automakers > > On Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:52 PM ken.com > wrote: > > >They can do it with electric vehicles. California > can lead the way into > the future. More than 10% of >all cars are sold in > California - don't > underestimate what that can do. California is the > worlds 5th >largest > economy. I remember when California required the > impossible exhaust > emissions. Funny how all >the manufactures were able > to do what they had > to do. The Auto manufactures just don't want to be > the >'bad guy'. Now > they can say the government is the cause of the high > prices. Then > competition will > >force the prices down just like it always does. > <snipped> > > It is 2006! Aren't we supposed to have flying cars > by now? 8-) > > David L. Crooks > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

