john harvey <> wrote: > I've long thought that most of the Agile Religion is a crock, even > though I like the basic concept. Here's a great article on it out of > Slashdot > http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/good-agile-bad-agile_27.html > > I like the way he points to one of the expositors of Agile using > Scrum which is found here - http://www.controlchaos.com/
Well after living in an Agile shop for the better part of 7 months I can tell you that Agile is Great for the TINY refactor. For the real quick turn and burn it's fantastic. Oh you say? For the long term project that needs DOCUMENTATION in the form of a Spec on what is expected Agile is not the way to go. Agile condemns the concept of wasting time in documentation. On the front end or in wasting time anywhere in the actual code. The concept of a code check-in is a joke and when your writing the most basic test scripts and feel "it's tested" you are just living in a fantasy. Eventually the house of cards will fall in, and you have to only hope your on the outside an not inside. My former employer missed billing 2 mill $ and good testing and an audit of multiple batches would have shown the mistake. Oh well, bring it up in the meeting that testing is beyond just running a few scripts will get a target on your back :) Agile is great in the debugging mode when your into beta and you need that real quick turn and burn. But it's only treading water in reality for big projects. Stephen Russell DBA / Operations Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006 _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.

