john harvey <> wrote:
> I've long thought that most of the Agile Religion is a crock, even
> though I like the basic concept. Here's a great article on it out of
> Slashdot
> http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/09/good-agile-bad-agile_27.html 
> 
> I like the way he points to one of the expositors of Agile using
> Scrum which is found here - http://www.controlchaos.com/ 

Well after living in an Agile shop for the better part of 7 months I can
tell you that Agile is Great for the TINY refactor.  For the real quick turn
and burn it's fantastic.  Oh you say?  For the long term project that needs
DOCUMENTATION in the form of a Spec on what is expected Agile is not the way
to go.  

Agile condemns the concept of wasting time in documentation.  On the front
end or in wasting time anywhere in the actual code.  The concept of a code
check-in is a joke and when your writing the most basic test scripts and
feel "it's tested" you are just living in a fantasy.  Eventually the house
of cards will fall in, and you have to only hope your on the outside an not
inside.  

My former employer missed billing 2 mill $ and good testing and an audit of
multiple batches would have shown the mistake.  Oh well, bring it up in the
meeting that testing is beyond just running a few scripts will get a target
on your back :)

Agile is great in the debugging mode when your into beta and you need that
real quick turn and burn.  But it's only treading water in reality for big
projects.  


Stephen Russell
DBA / Operations Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/

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