It's a number that he made up because, he thinks, it sounds stunning. Actual number is lower, even if you add up all deaths by firearm, regardless of the categorization.
Michael Oke, II 661-349-6221 [email protected] On Aug 17, 2011 8:25 PM, "Pete Theisen" <[email protected]> wrote: > geoff wrote: >> Well you Americans love your guns and it only costs you 50,000 deaths per >> year for this 'right'. > > Hi Geoff, > > You keep tossing out the figure 50,000 deaths per year. Where are you > getting that figure? Or is it just something you made up? > >> geoff wrote: >>> This is the usual pro-gun argument and it is just as lame now as it is in >>> the past. Guns have only one purpose: to kill people. Why you think police >>> would have guns and the rioters would leave theirs at home is odd to say >> the lease. > >> Dr. John Lott lame? Where is your Ph.D. from and how many books have you >> written? Have you read any of Dr. Lott's writing? >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott >> >> Nevertheless, my take on Adam's post is that the police now DO have guns >> in the UK it was just uncertainty as to instructions. No set policy on >> intervening when a mob is beating one person, evidently. Or perhaps the >> instruction is to dither and muddle through . . . >> >> Off to Lakeland now for my volunteer day. Hope no armed criminal shoots >> me off my bike while the police are considering stopping him . . . >> >>> Adam Buckland wrote: >>>> 1. Water cannons do not work on smaller groups only on large mobs .. >>>> 2. Water cannons were not used at all in any event >>>> 3. There is no law allowing for a curfew except when war is declared >>>> 4. The police do have guns.. it is the view in the uk and most of the >>>> world that the police and armed forces can have guns and the civilian >>>> population do not with certain exceptions. I have a shotgun and have a >>>> licence for it and use it for vermin control and for sport. >>>> 5. Without a lot of research I'm not going into the prison thing with >>>> statistics etc.. all I know and can say is that the conservative govt >>>> have run with the slogan "Prison Works" and they are getting long >>>> prison sentences for theft etc... The article is inaccurate. >>>> 6. Initially the police got their response wrong seeing it as a bunch of >>>> protesters that needed to be contained. They have admitted this was a >>>> mistake and subsequently treated it as simply criminal activity and >>>> "waded in" >> >>> So, it is fixed now? >>> >>>> http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45522 >>>> >>>> "I will say one of the reasons for the incredible rate of violence there >>>> is because they treat criminals very leniently, they don't like to >>>> incarcerate them," she said. "It is very expensive and they believe >>>> prisons ought to rehabilitate them and get these people back on the >>>> street in short order." >>>> >>>> "An image of the riots that stays with her is the police in riot gear >>>> standing in front of a mob, and the press praised the police for bravely >>>> standing there and taking the rocks and bottles hurled at them, she >>>> said. >>>> >>>> "When the home secretary returned from holiday, she at first refused to >>>> allow the police to use water cannon on the crowds, she said. "She did >>>> not even allow for a curfew." >>>> >>>> "Malcolm said, "There was a man who tried to talk to the thugs and he >>>> was just beaten up by them. As he was being beaten, there was a police >>>> officer standing there, who did not intervene because he was waiting for >>>> backup." >>>> >>>> "The man was taken to the hospital and he could not be identified >>>> because he was so severely battered and because the thugs stole his >>>> wallet, she said. >>>> >>>> "If that had happened in America that policeman would have had a gun to >>>> stop the horrors from taking place in front of him," she said." >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Pete > http://pete-theisen.com/ > http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/CACBEV=Wfo+MG-hrFySTsO8Cu649x53309ZVad9xcgCm1aTZ8=w...@mail.gmail.com ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
