At 09:27 AM 3/7/2012 +0000, Alan Bourke wrote:

>On Tue, Mar 6, 2012, at 07:43 PM, Ricardo Araoz wrote:
>
> >
> > You are missing the point. That computer is MY computer.
>
>Nope, you're missing the point in your eagerness to get onto an anti-MS
>rant. Microsoft will be able to de-activate apps that were downloaded
>via their Windows 8 app stores. In Windows 8. Not 7, XP, or anything
>else. That's really all we know at the minute, and if that is the extent
>of it then they're no different from Apple and Google in that respect.
>So if it's a bad idea then fine, but please also include Google and
>Apple in your condemnation.
>--
>   Alan Bourke
>   alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

Well, maybe both missed each other's points. I don't think I've seen the 
entire thread, but this is what I see:

Ricardo is saying he doesn't want MS (or probably any company) to touch his 
apps/data on his PC without his permission.

Alan is saying other companies currently can do a remote app (and data?) 
kills on phones and tablets (Google and Apple - although I'll have to look 
into the Android thing - I don't remember seeing that).

I think the thread started specifically about Windows 8, which may be why 
Apple/Google wasn't a focus. Of course, they are clearly different 
platforms. Also, the number of companies that behave a certain way does not 
mean that "way" is ethical, good, or beneficial to consumers (the people 
that pay the money). I think Google/Apple were emboldened by MS's past 
license statements (i.e.they reserve the right to change stuff on your 
computer at any time). So Google/Apple put in their backdoors for remote 
control. And since they did it MS feels emboldened to do it for PCs.

Mike B pointed out I predicted this (Windows remote-kill) a while back. 
Thanks for that memory-trip Mike :). One thing I didn't see or extrapolate 
was that other companies would embrace MS practices when they saw they got 
away with it over and over. We (computer/software professionals) have 
pretty much failed the world in this regard. Our laziness* and desire for 
the easy-buck** has led to this pitiful situation. So if any developer gets 
bit by some unexpected update, remote-kill, backdoor-hijack, bank account 
hack, or stolen identity, just remember: it's your own fault. Your silence 
and acquiescence to MS's progression down this path is what got us here. I 
include myself in this - while I haven't been an MS fan for the past decade 
or more, I have only had small victories (e.g. killed .Net projects where 
possible, got open source into the workplace, etc). I should have done 
much, much more. So when I work on Windows computers I have to expect 
failures, hacks, or corruptions. In personal life, I'm trying to help 
family/friends get off the MS wagon to atone for my decades-ago 
recommendation to go with MS software.

-Charlie

*-laziness: unwilling to research and embrace technologies outside the 
MS-bandwagon. Not actually understanding the science behind computer 
technology to be able to see through marketing hyperbole of any vendor.
**-easy-buck: getting paid to do the same thing over and over because MS 
said do it a different way... over and over. And heck, "I get paid by the 
company, not some end user. So why the hell should I care about what's best 
for them in the long run."


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