I used a screw driver to listen - it went "Whir" - "Chip" - "Chip, chip"
- "Chip, chip" - then continued to make the spinning noise.
I even plugged the Terabyte drive back in - and, it comes up under the
Bios - just not the main drive.
But, strangely - at one point today - when it was booting up - it
actually gave me the option to select which OS I wanted to boot into -
and, at another point - the option to select Safe Mode Or Last Good
Config (which I actually DID try - but, not successfully!)...
As for a Backup. Well, a lot of stuff is kinda backed up to the Terabyte
drive - and, a LOT of the other stuff - current projects and all - its
on the Laptop.
But, never any TRUE Backup...
In the past, I rolled this way - since, if a PC went bad - I was usually
able to take the HD - pop it into another PC - and then pull any files
off that HD that I needed.
Guess its time to seriously consider true backups!
-K-
On 11/14/2012 6:40 PM, Mike Copeland wrote:
You should be able to hear the drive spin up and
self-calibrate...although the newer drives are much quieter. What I do
is use a large screwdriver like a stethescope...put the handle end
against your ear and the point against the case of the drive (NOT on a
circuit board!)....then power the system on while you listen. You'll
hear a mechanical whirring noise increasing in pitch then some
"chatter" like sounds as the drive calibrates the head.
If you hear nothing, silence, then the drive is dead. Very bad.
If you hear spinning but nothing else, then the drive is brain dead.
Also not good.
If you hear spinning, then chatter, then nothing, then it could be the
cables, the cable connectors, or the mainboard interface.
It all comes back to how much $ you want to spend and what the value
of the data is to you. For a few hundred dollars, there are companies
that will get everything off the drive that is recoverable. For the
price of some time and a new hard drive, you might be able to recover
most of the data...if the drive will still run.
Thank God for backups...right? (right? right? huh?)
Mike
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...
From: Kurt @ VR-FX <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: 11/14/2012 5:30 PM
For the Hell of it - I blew air into the fan on the CPU.
So - as I mentioned before - I was now seeing errors like No Boot
files or something - and that when Bios was displayed - it didn't list
any HD in the SATA channels. AS such, just now - went into the BIOS -
and that's what I saw - no HD's in SATA Channels - and I even ran
Auto-detect for all 4 channels - and - Nothing - Zero - like NO HD's
detected. I can't believe its just getting worse...
Somebody just shoot me now...
-K-
On 11/14/2012 4:17 PM, Mike Copeland wrote:
My nose smells a power supply issue. I've also seen CPUs that will
sense a "problem" and shut the system down...usually heat
related...kind of a self-preservation thing. "I'm feeling warm, Dave."
Have you actually opened the system and checked for massive wads of
lint and dust and dirt caked on the CPU heatsink...power supply fan
screen, etc.?
Mike
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...
From: Kurt @ VR-FX <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: 11/14/2012 3:10 PM
OK - am trying Ur suggestion - I have that webpage open. Funny thing
is. I booted with the WinXP CD - and it came up with a bunch of
options on a blue screen. I actually let is sit there - while I was
on the phone with a Dr. office - but, while I was still on the phone
- its like after a period of time - the PC just Shut Down or powered
off! I find that strange - and did NOT Think that should happen while
I was at that Blue screen.
Does that sound strange to U as well? Maybe signaling a Deeper problem?
FYI - I am by No Means a PC HW expert. Although, this machine with
the problems - it actually IS One that I built a number of years ago...
-K-
On 11/14/2012 3:43 PM, Mike Copeland wrote:
Safe Mode is good when you have a device driver that has gone off
the reservation. Like a scanner or some other non-essential device.
Mike
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...
From: Kurt @ VR-FX <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: 11/14/2012 2:33 PM
I've tried Safe Mode in the past - and NEVER Found it very helpful...
-K-
On 11/14/2012 3:16 PM, Richard Kaye wrote:
Have you tried booting Windoze in Safe Mode?
--
rk
-----Original Message-----
From: ProfoxTech [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Kurt @ VR-FX
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NF] SATA Drive & a Dead PC...
YEah - but, that's doesn't solve the main problem - that this PC
won't boot. Also, there is CG SW that's locked to that PC - and its
Another reason why I really want to get that PC running again.
It was initially suggested that I run a ChkDsk on the boot HD in
question - the do a Windows repair - to try and get it working
again - and keep all data & SW still functional - so, this is what
I am still after.
-K-
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