Probably the only major decision you have to make is on using Hyper-V or 
VMWare. We started off on VMWare and then when Server 2012 came out and Hyper-V 
was bundled free of charge we moved to that, which is where we are today. I 
still like VMWare and the costs have reduced dramatically but it isn't free!!

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ProFox [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Dibble
Sent: 13 April 2016 15:57
To: [email protected]
Subject: [NF] Your Experience with Virtualized Networks

Have any of you had experience working with (rather) large virtualized networks?

It's been suggested that I virtualize my network. To me the advantages are not 
clear but the risks are. Since I am old-school and highly risk-averse when it 
comes to computer technology, I need to hear different perspectives from people 
who are not trying to sell me anything.

We have 7 servers that are candidates for virtualization on a single hypervisor.

- Domain controller (currently Linux but may be replaced with Windows)
- Heavily used Linux file server that includes two VFP databases and serves up 
a large and growing number of network shares on which many users depend heavily
- Lightly used Windows Medicaid billing server running software that is very 
slow and requires maximum throughput/speed
- Lightly used Windows Accounting server that is running software that is very 
slow and requires maximum throughput/speed
- Windows RDP server that has about 15 authorized users; there's slow growth on 
this, and it runs separate instances of my VFP application for some of those 
users.
- Windows Document management server
- Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Antivirus server (not a Windows server OS)

The Accounting and Medicaid boxes both have SQL Server Express databases, and 
there is client software on the workstations that access it, but the servers 
also have additional software installed as well. So it does not appear to me 
that this is either fully fat client-thin server or fully server-hosted 
software.

The network has about 130 workstations, connected through four gigabit 
switches, and there is moderate growth on that. We have a 25 Mbps synchronous 
internet connection and it is heavily used by many workstations. There are only 
a couple of network printers; most people have desktop printers.

There is a VoIP phone server on a separate physical network but which is 
connected to the computer network for remote-access purposes and to enable use 
of "switchboard" software on a few workstations.

There are two other servers on the network that are not candidates for 
virtualization:

- Fax server; has legacy dedicated hardware
- Backup server, which is almost constantly either running scripts to backup 
and transfer data from the other servers, to itself and to a removable drive, 
or having data fed to it from other servers.

Total "live" data on the network servers is about 1 TB; we can expect 
slow-to-moderate growth on that.

The risks it seems to me are:

1. Fail-over: If the hypervisor goes down, nobody, but nobody, can do any work. 
Therefore I need a redundant mirrored system on a separate box, and a robust 
mechanism to continuously mirror the data without affecting performance. Is 
that really possible?

2. What is going to be the real, day-to-day effect of using a virtualized RDP 
server in a stack of other virtualized servers, some of which have heavy 
intranet traffic? I do not want to be in a situation where I'm told there are 
no worries and then, this system is installed, and the thing is dog-slow.

3. In fact, I don't want that to happen in relation to any of the applications 
we are using. What is a realistic expectation on this?

If the reality is that I will be assuming greater risks than I face now with 
separate physical servers, and those risks cannot be mitigated effectively, 
then are there any countervailing advantages to virtualization that would be 
great enough to justify making this change?

Thanks to all for the benefit of your experience.

Ken Dibble
www.stic-cil.org





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