It wouldn’t bother me one bit to pull all of our resources out of every
country and build a wall around us,

You're probably right about iraq, BUT they're entitled to their growing
pains, which we went through too as anything is better then what they had.

I'm not much of a historian, so I did find your explanation of israel and
palenstine interesting.

My biggest problem with all this mess is all the accusations and zero
solutions proposed by anyone except bill  


Virgil Bierschwale
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com

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Of Ricardo Aráoz
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Subject: Re: [OT] -- Iraq articles

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> guess you haven't heard a thing I said
> 
> one. We should be out of countries that don't want us there

Cool! One caveat.... Nobody wants you in their country!

> two.iraq appears to want us there. Extremists don't

Nope. The puppet govt. you put into power wants you there. That's not
necessarily Iraq. I don't really know what Iraq does want. I don't even know
if there really IS something called Iraq, seeing how they fight it out
between themselves. But in any case you should be out of the picture and
they should solve their own problems, nobody named you world police, nobody
wants you in that position, so step down.

> three.everything I see about palenstine makes me think that they have 
>thrown the first punch from day one and I believe that if they would 
>quit so
would israell

You should remember that Israel was, at the end of WWII, under British
hands. You should also remember that back then jews (they were not yet
Israelis) would go around bombing places (I think you call it terrorism),
and many of their later politicians started their careers in that manner.
Then you should remember that the brits gave them Israel and the
Palestinians were displaced from their lands.
I will not play it easy. I know there are no innocent parties in this game.
But the Israeli's have particularly bloody hands (maybe some things rubbed
down from the Nazis?).

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From:  Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subj:  Re: [OT] -- Iraq articles
> Date:  Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:57 pm
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> lack of compassion and understanding is how you are coming acropss
> 
> Well you know. Sometimes looking in a mirror is good for you.
> 
> I've seen the same lack in most posts here.
> 
> Why is it that your dead are more important than palestinian, or iraqi 
> dead? Or the other way round, why would you expect your dead to be 
> important to me when other people's dead are of no concern to you?
> Same thing applied to political issues : why do you think I should 
> respect your politics when you don't respect other nations different 
> ways of conceiving the world, freedom, or power?
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From:  Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subj:  Re: [OT] -- Iraq articles
>> Date:  Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:54 pm
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> big difference
>>> kuwaits government asked for our help
>>>
>> Usama asked for their help. There's always someone who'll ask you to 
>> do whatever you'll do anyway.
>>
>>> how you could even discuss them at the same time is beyond me
>> That's why I do it. I'm trying to improve you, cosmopolize you a bit, 
>> open your horizons ;C)
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From:  Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subj:  Re: [OT] -- Iraq articles
>>> Date:  Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:15 pm
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> like I said
>>>> we went in and libereated kuwait
>>>>
>>>> a fact you choose to ignore in order to make your point
>>> Well, they went in and 'libereated' the towers. And that's also a 
>>> fact you shouldn't ignore, acts have consequences.
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>
>>>> From:  Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Subj:  Re: [OT] -- Iraq articles
>>>> Date:  Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:03 am
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>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If the US gave the greenlight to invade kuwait, then why did we 
>>>>> run them out of there ?
>>>>> Seems to me that your theory is a lot different then the history 
>>>>> that actually happened.
>>>>    Oh, geez - everything is a theory with you now, is it? The cables 
>>>> that documented the meeting between April Glaspie and Saddam 
>>>> Hussein are theories, too, as is whether or not it contained 
>>>> English words, or some cleverly-encoded language that was designed 
>>>> to look like perfect English? The communications of our Ambassador 
>>>> are well- documented, had you bothered to look them up before 
>>>> spitting out
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