Robert Calco wrote: > On Feb 6, 2007, at 2:12 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: > > >> I'm doing well, and it good to see you're still full of vim and >> vinegar >> and spunky as ever. I hope your new position work out for you. >> > > Thank You Sir. :) > > >> The evidence of global warming is mounting and becoming undeniable. >> > > ".. a lie repeated often enough.."... > > >> Change in climate and temperature have been occurring since the >> beginning, but until recently the changes occurred over hundreds of >> thousands, even millions of year. In the past the changes to >> climate and >> temperatures were so subtle and slow, that life on the planet was able >> to adapt through evolution as the changes occurred. >> >> There have also been some abrupt changes in the past that devastated >> life on earth like earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunami, strikes by >> asteroid, >> but hopefully nothing on such a catastrophic level is in the cards for >> our planet anytime soon. Catastrophic events of the past not only >> devastated the planet of themselves, but also recked havoc in the >> changes they made to the environment, which likely lasted long periods >> before the planet regained her delicate balance. >> > > Yeah they were real disasters. :P > >> The climate changes taking place now are occurring on a decade by >> decade >> basis with predictions of extraordinary change levels over the short >> period of 100 years. Our planet cannot tolerate this level of >> abuse. We >> must immediately begin reversing the causes of global warming. >> >> We should begin: >> >> 1) Control population growth so as not to trample the necessary >> plants, >> vegetables, forest, open plains, tropical jungles, etc that are >> absolutely necessary to a healthy planet full of all the diverse >> ecological system supported. >> > > I propose we nuke China, and tell Pakistan that India thinks they > smell funny. And give both Israel and Iran the OK to stop jabbering > and just whack each other with whatever they got. > > Almost overnight, the supposed over-population problem will be gone. > And the ensuing nuclear winter would definitely reverse global > warming for awhile. > > come to think of it, it would also result in a tangible reduction of > the nuclear stockpile, and force us to find alternative fuels too. > And the trade deficit would go away almost instantly... > > The more I think about it, the more I like it... <evil-grin/> > > :) > Those of you who think along the lines of the neoconservatives all have a one track mind; war, war, war, and more war. But war is not the solution; war is the problem, and as Albert Einstein once said:
I don't know what will be used to fight WW III, but WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones. Why use a radical tool like war to combat problems, when the same objective can be achieved with proper planning and cooperation between peoples and nations? >> 2) Find energy sources that do not damage the environment, or even >> cooperated to benefit the environment, like wind energy, energy >> from the >> tides and currents of the sea, solar energy, biofuel energy, thermal >> energy, nuclear energy. >> > > Maybe we can capture cow farts in jars and turn them into fuel > somehow. You know, take a destructive thing and turn it into a > positive thing. ;) > Methane gas if clean, efficient and can be obtained from human, pig, and other animal waste. Tyson Chicken is now turning chicken fat, a by-product of processing chicken for market, into biodiesel fuel. http://www.viacorp.com/bio-gas.html > >> 3) Educate the world to the threat of climate changes, so that every >> government around the world builds a society around economic, >> political, >> and social systems that protect the health and welfare of our planet. >> > > I propose we teach people to think critically for themselves, period, > so they don't get sold a bill of goods in the form of some alleged > altruist's agenda, whether from the ostensible right or left. > You should take a little of your own advise and think more constructively about global warming, rather than remaining safe in the darkness of denial. Regards, LelandJ > - Bob > >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> Robert Calco wrote: >> >>> Leland (my friend): >>> >>> I read the IPCC's "report". I was unimpressed. Frankly, it reeks of >>> left-wing politics. From notes on page 18: >>> >>> "B1... The emphasis is on global solutions to economic, social and >>> environmental sustainability, including improved equity, but without >>> additional climate initiatives. >>> >>> "B2... While the scenario is also oriented towards environmental >>> protection and social equity, it focuses on local and regional >>> levels." >>> >>> "economic, social, and environmental sustainability"..."improved >>> equity"..."social equity"... This is science? Please. It's the same >>> visceral reaction you and others have to supposedly objective reports >>> with words like "freedom" and "individual responsibility" and >>> "liberty" in them. ;) >>> >>> All this is at bottom is an attempt to use half-clever statistical >>> ruses and scientific-sounding speculation to make a particular >>> political platform look like the solution to an imagined boogeyman. >>> It's neither a new technique nor a particularly hard one to decipher. >>> The left has simply got the political football after a fumble, and >>> are pushing hard for the goal line now, is all. >>> >>> Like I said, I do not deny the "warming" trend ("A truth that's told >>> with bad intent, beats any lie you can invent."). But I'm not sold on >>> the "science" behind the theory involving CO2 levels, and I am >>> alarmed at the tendency to group think these kinds of propaganda >>> pushes entail. Just looking back over history indicates many periods >>> of dramatic warming (and cooling) without any input from man. I'm not >>> saying we aren't a factor; i'm not even saying we aren't a big factor >>> (esp now that countries like India and China have billions of people >>> (and millions of cows, who by the way emit more greenhouse gasses >>> than cars)), but I note that the allegedly "hard" science behind this >>> is skewed by having only a handful of decades of more-or-less >>> consistent data. Taking a wider view, we can expect things to even >>> out. Why, for that matter, it's almost a certainty at some point >>> we'll suffer another extinction event. So what? Such is life in a >>> universe where life is very, very rare. >>> >>> At the end of the day, if this is all the evidence we have to go on >>> in making huge decisions affecting millions if not billions of >>> people's livelihoods, then I suggest we recall the last time "almost >>> everyone agreed" that the intelligence pointed to a gathering, if not >>> immanent threat....... >>> >>> So I guess all you global warming people now agree with the policy of >>> pre-emption as long as it's promoted by the UN and aimed at the US >>> economy, eh? >>> >>> Too funny. >>> >>> <Personal> >>> BTW, how have you been, Leland? Hope you are well. I've been drowned >>> in work and in an effort to improve my situation, I'm taking a new >>> job at the end of this month with ostensibly more humane hours. The >>> position will be Domain Architect in charge of Application Design & >>> Frameworks at Publix IS in Lakeland, FL. I might even get to see my >>> kids once in a while... >>> </Personal> >>> >>> ;) >>> >>> - Bob >>> >>> On Feb 6, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Below is an article form the Washington Post Bob for your >>>> education on >>>> global warming: In particular you should click on the link >>>> towards the >>>> bottom for the IPCC's report, which is in pdf format. >>>> >>>> #-------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> Science: Global Climate Report >>>> >>>> Juliet Eilperin >>>> Washington Post Staff Writer >>>> Monday, February 5, 2007; 12:00 PM >>>> >>>> There is no longer any reasonable doubt that human activities are >>>> warming the planet at a dangerous rate, according to a new worldwide >>>> assessment of climate science released by the authoritative >>>> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. >>>> >>>> With at least 90 percent certainty, the IPCC's "Summary For >>>> Policymakers" concludes human-generated greenhouse gases account for >>>> most of the global rise in temperatures over the past half century. >>>> Hundreds of scientists from 113 countries prepared the report, which >>>> represents the most comprehensive overview of scientific climate >>>> research since 2001. >>>> >>>> http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/documents/ >>>> climate_report_020207.pdf >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/2kqdrg >>>> >>>> Link to the Washington Post article: >>>> >>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/02/02/ >>>> DI2007020200882.html?referrer=email >>>> >>>> or >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/2uvvvb >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> LelandJ >>>> >>>> >>>> Robert Calco wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming020507.htm >>>>> >>>>> - - - >>>>> >>>>> It's nearly impossible to have a rational debate with anybody about >>>>> this anymore. Personally I don't see any point (and never did see >>>>> any point) in denying a warming trend lately; but to jump from that >>>>> point of common ground to Ceterum Censeo about its cause and needed >>>>> measures to "reverse" it (assuming such a thing is even in our >>>>> power >>>>> short of inducing nuclear winter, let alone necessary) is to make a >>>>> big, huge, monster leap of faith (actually, of two orders of >>>>> magnitude) based on propositions that are hardly proven and facts >>>>> that are statistically insufficient to prove them. >>>>> >>>>> As with the middle east conflict, all sense of proportion and >>>>> historical perspective is lost. And so it goes. It is politically >>>>> expedient to embrace the farce. I'm becoming increasingly anti- >>>>> political, not just apolitical, as I grow older, and (hopefully) >>>>> wiser. I don't want to slip into nihilism, but it's hard to take >>>>> anybody seriously anymore. >>>>> >>>>> It's hard to avoid the sense that 'global warming' is just a scare >>>>> tactic for the old left to regain its political footing and put our >>>>> wallets on the table for demagogues to snatch. Meanwhile the real >>>>> menace, radical Islam, gets a morale booster courtesy of our >>>>> Congress, rushing into the military equivalent of Kyoto with their >>>>> insane seppuku posturing on Iraq. >>>>> >>>>> Oh well. As with every disaster, natural or man-made: "And this too >>>>> shall pass." >>>>> >>>>> - Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
