The three most important things in stopping power for any weapon are: 1) Shot placement. 2) Shot placement 3) Shot placement
Regards, LelandJ john harvey wrote: > I've got a couple of Barettas, a couple of S&W autos and a Glock. The Glock > is the one with the lightest pull. I like the Smiths, but they are .9mms and > I would rather carry a .40 cal. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:39 PM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT > > It seem to me that the trigger pull on the glock may be too light, if a > DEA agent could accidentally discharge the weapon while trying to > holster it. That makes me wonder if a glock might be discharge by an > accidental trigger pull when aimed at a target of an arrest or during > other hazardous duty. I've never fired a glock, but my understanding is > the glock has a lighter trigger pull than the Beretta, at least on the > first shot. The Beretta has a double action first shot (eg full trigger > pull), but subsequent shots are in a single action lighter trigger pull > mode (eg the hammer is clocked back and ready to go). > > Regards, > > LelandJ > > john harvey wrote: > >> I carry a Glock model 27 .40 cal. It has no safety other than the little >> second trigger. Having said that, if I were to hand it to someone, I would >> lock the slide back and remove the clip. ALL GUNS ARE LOADED, EVEN >> > UNLOADED > >> ONES! >> >> The Memphis PD had an incident during a training exercise several years >> > ago > >> where one officer shot another. Now they and most area LE agencies use >> > "red > >> handled" guns. Those are guns that have been disabled and the grips are >> painted red. That is the safest route for training on handgun retention or >> disarming someone. If you were doing a demonstration in front of a bunch >> > of > >> people, I would think you would empty the weapon (without discharging) and >> then do the demo! >> >> John >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:09 PM >> To: ProFox Email List >> Subject: Re: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT >> >> The video just goes to show how easily accidents can happen, when you >> don't have your head in the game. I assume the agent thought the weapon >> was unloaded, but evidentially: >> >> 1) A magazine with live ammo was inserted into the gun. The DEA agent >> should have hit the magazine release button to check the status of the >> magazine before proceeding with the lecture. >> 2) The slide had been racked back and locked. >> 3) The slide was then released loading a round into the barrel. >> 4) If I understand it correctly, a glock does not have a safety and >> only fires in a double action mode, (eg a full trigger pull is required >> every time the gun is fired) , so somehow the DEA agent managed to pull >> the trigger while trying to holster the gun. This is strange because >> the glock folks say the trigger pull is the safety mechanism. >> >> He was lucky he only injured his foot and pride and nothing more serious. >> >> Regards, >> >> LelandJ >> >> Michael Madigan wrote: >> >> >>> They let college jocks be DEA agents? Don't you have >>> to be able to read and write? >>> >>> >>> --- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I think I heard that he was an ex-NFL player, or >>>> maybe it was just a college >>>> jock, but either way.... >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>>> Of Michael Madigan >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:47 PM >>>> To: ProFox Email List >>>> Subject: RE: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT >>>> >>>> Are you sure that he's a DEA Agent and not a >>>> Rastafarian Ganja User? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> This happened a couple of years ago. The latest I >>>>> have heard is he is suing >>>>> some people for making him look stupid! Hahaha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Kinda >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> reminds me of the wife >>>>> asking, "does this dress make me look fat?" The >>>>> honest answer is NO. It's >>>>> all the fat oozing out of it that makes her look >>>>> fat, and it was this idiot >>>>> who made himself look stupid. There should >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> probably >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> be an IQ test >>>>> administered before allowing someone to even hold >>>>> one! >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>>>> Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:24 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT >>>>> >>>>> Whoops, talking about shooting yourself in the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> foot! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> <g> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY&NR >>>>> >>>>> or >>>>> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2mvlbh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> LelandJ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
