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--- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks, guys.
> 
> I remember webex sessions with a client in Puerto
> Rico who had satellite 
> internet.  When it was raining in PR, don't even
> bother...
> 
> I'll probably go with the evil cable company in
> Tucson rather than the 
> evil AT&T...
> 
> Cheers;
> 
> C
> 
> john harvey wrote:
> > What he said! I just moved to dsl from HughesNet.
> DSL is much better, but at
> > the time it was either dialup or satellite. I'm
> happy now and I'm saving
> > over 150.00 per year.
> >
> > JH
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of Ken Dibble
> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:22 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [NF] WildBlue Satellite Internet
> >
> >
> >   
> >> Anybody have any experience with WildBlue
> Satellite internet service?
> >>
> >> http://www.wildblue.com
> >>
> >> $49.95/month -- 512kb Down - 128k up
> >> $69.96/month -- 1Mbps down - 200Kbps up
> >>
> >> Currently Free installation/Free first month...
> >>     
> >
> > Hi Chet,
> >
> > Not with WildBlue, but I had StarBand for quite a
> while. They are similar.
> >
> > WildBlue uses a "spot beam" technology, aiming
> transmissions from different 
> > transponders to different areas of the country.
> StarBand had at one time a 
> > couple of satellites and used broader beams.
> >
> > Both companies use geosynchronous satellites.
> Being some 22,000 miles away, 
> > there is an unavoidable 1-second lag on all packet
> round trips. This makes 
> > satellite internet either problematic or
> completely unsuitable for use with 
> > anything where timeouts are a problem, like
> real-time games, some forms of 
> > instant messaging, some types of VPN, and some
> kinds of streaming media. It 
> > also means that web access is not any faster than
> dial-up, on average. The 
> > only thing they're really good at is high-speed
> downloading.
> >
> > Typically those speed numbers are *maximum*
> off-peak speeds; expect speeds 
> > to be about 1/2 those quoted much or most of the
> time.
> >
> > StarBand was subject to frequent weather outtages
> (heavy thunderstorms or 
> > snowstorms); WildBlue is even more subject to them
> than StarBand is.
> >
> > StarBand has only one uplink point, in Georgia.
> That means that when the 
> > weather is bad in the Southeast, NOBODY can
> connect to StarBand. I don't 
> > know where WildBlue's uplink point is, or if they
> have more than one. If 
> > they only have one and it isn't in the desert,
> they'll have the same issue.
> >
> > StarBand, in addition, was notorious for badly
> managing their network and 
> > being stingy about adding bandwidth to their trunk
> lines. They were highly 
> > unreliable as a service, though their most recent
> hardware was pretty
> > rugged.
> >
> > WildBlue has a reputation for weaker hardware but
> better managed service.
> >
> > Both companies have "Fair Access Policies"
> (FAPs)--they will throttle your 
> > speed waaaaay back if you exceed download byte
> maximums during a revolving 
> > period of time.
> >
> > In short--satellite internet basically sucks if
> you have access to any 
> > other form of broadband service. It's really only
> suitable for people who 
> > have nothing but dialup. And it's not going to
> work much better than dialup 
> > for some kinds of applications.
> >
> > Ken Dibble
> > www.stic-cil.org
> >
> >
> >
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