I had forgotten about the "Long Weight"! Lmao My last 4 years was on a RAF base for my sins!
Robert -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Posted At: 04 April 2007 14:31 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL forWindowsbook justhitthe market Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL forWindowsbook justhitthe market Robert, Happy days! Left Handed Screwdrivers in the RAF in my day and lots of tins of Elbow Grease. And the young recruits got sent to the stores for a Long Stand. <BG> Dave Crozier -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Jennings Sent: 04 April 2007 14:05 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL for Windowsbook justhitthe market I was in the British Army once upon a time... We had the a "Sky Hook" in our's! lol Robert -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mrgmhale Posted At: 04 April 2007 13:50 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL for Windowsbook justhit the market Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL for Windowsbook justhit the market > Where did you get your "Day Stretcher" from in the first place?? I saw it in a supply catalog while in the US Army, over 30 years ago. The same catalog listed a "muffler bearing" as well (shaft bearing for a diesel/multi-fuel engine turbocharger). Gil > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Jennings > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 4:32 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL for Windows > book justhit the market > > > Gil, > > Where did you get your "Day Stretcher" from in the first place?? I > could do with ordering 4! > > Robert > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of mrgmhale > Posted At: 04 April 2007 06:33 > Posted To: Profox Archive > Conversation: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL for Windows > book justhit the market > Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL for Windows > book justhit the market > > > > Gil: I downloaded PostgreSQL based on the recommendations I > > received from the Dabo group. I don't have the book, but I am using > > PostgreSQL > > > on Windows > > > > I would be interested in the book, though, because all of my > > development will be on Windows. > > I just did a Power Read of the PostgreSQL For Windows book. I sure > wish I had this available when I first started to dink around with > PostgreSQL last year! I already flogged my way through a lot of the > setup and network connectivity issues last year, but the installation > & setup part of the book still has some great info. This will be an > important part of my Must Have reference books, just about as > important as A Hackers Guide To Visual FoxPro > (still) is. > > I know I posted my reasons for moving to PostgreSQL a while ago, and > maybe more than once. My views have not changed all that much, other > than a deeper confidence that I am going in the right direction. My > reasons > include: > > 1) I need a much more scalable database than the 2Gb file size > limit I am > coming close to hitting with VFP, > a) VFP View results against PostgreSQL tables must still > consume under 2Gb, > regardless of how large the RDMS table is allowed to grow > > 2) I wanted a database that will work well over a thin-net or > Internet > connection, > a) Remote Views in VFP will do that, but the scalability is > still an issue > > 3) Despite how simple it is to work in VFP, and have terrific > performance, > it has not built in security, more of an issue with Privacy Laws today. > PostGreSQL has built in security, > > 4) ACID (no, not the kind we used to have around in high school), > PostgreSQL > has it, > > 5) ODBC and other more recent methods of connectivity (for Java), > > 6) High performance and great indexing options, > a) Full Text Indexing is available as an add-in during > installation > > 7) Good documentation had to be available, and the RDMS had to be > accepted > by a relatively large following, > a) Windows based PostgreSQL could have been better > documented before I got > the book referenced previously, but who wants to go through all the > grief of creating thorough and clear (and easy to find) documentation? > b) Firebird looked interesting, but does not seem as widely > accepted as > PostgreSQL. > > 8) Low cost or free to End Users with respect to licensing, not > costly as > with full M$ SQL Server or Oracle, > a) Unlike MySQL (which I had considered), for commercial > use without > disclosing source code, there is no license fee per server. > b) Not only is it totally free, it is free to alter for > those who feel > compelled to do so (won't be me!) > > 9) I really wanted an Open Source solution, so the solution I hitch > my > future to will not simply be taken away by a software provider that > has decided it is time to put it out to pasture because it is no > longer profitable to market. That said, I am glad VFP will still be > viable for many years, as I plan to use it for some front end > solutions while using PostgreSQL on the back end. > > 10) Migrateable (sic?) between popular OS platforms. PostgreSQL > runs under > Windows, Linux and Unix. Tables can be imported/exported between > files residing under these different OSes. And, non-PostgreSQL > records can be imported from various formats. > > For my time investment I feel PostgreSQL is the clear choice given my > environment. I will likely always need to remain in the World of > Windows for my apps, but my back end server can be Linux or Windows. > Windows will always cost more for the OS plus the CAL fees than a > similar Linux machine. > A great server solution is looking more and more like a Linux Host OS, > running VMWare Server (free) with Windows 2000 Pro or XP Pro as a > Guest OS for those programs that must run in Windows (I have a few of > them, VFP <g>, ProComm). PostgreSQL can be on the Linux Host OS, > allowing network connectivity with no CAL license fees, yet great > connectivity to the database through the network connections or the > Guest OS under VMWare. Next world to delve into, Dabo and Python. > More time, more time, does anybody know what happened to my Day Stretcher? > > > Gil > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Johnson > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 5:13 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL for Windows > > book justhit the market > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of mrgmhale > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:36 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: Another life after VFP thread? PostgreSQL for Windows > > > book justhit the market > > > > > > So, in case anyone else is interested in the book (Whil, are > > you going to > > > put it into your offerings?), the title is "PostgreSQL 8 For > > > Windows", written by Richard Blum. If Whil is going to offer it > > > (hint, > > hint), then > > > that is who we ought to consider purchasing through. In any > > event, it is > > > now available. > > > > > > > > > Gil > > > > > > > Gil: I downloaded PostgreSQL based on the recommendations I > > received from the Dabo group. I don't have the book, but I am using > > PostgreSQL > > > on Windows and I am totally surprised and pleased at the server. I > > has an "Enterprise Manager" type thingy that it comes with that is > > much easier to understand (and therefore use) than MSSQL. It was > > easy > > > to set up and if you have any questions, there is literally tons of > > help out there. > > > > I would be interested in the book, though, because all of my > > development will be on Windows. > > > > Jeff > > > > Jeff Johnson > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 623-582-0323 > > Fax 623-869-0675 > > > > > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed > > text/plain (text body -- kept) > > application/x-pkcs7-signature > > --- > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. 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