I keep hearing the GOP harping on the Democrats for advocating defeat in 
Iraq, but defeat in Iraq has never  been clearly defined by the GOP or 
the Bush Administration.  If defeat in Iraq is possible, then victory in 
Iraq must also be possible, yet the GOP has never clearly defined the 
term Victory in Iraq either.  I hear a lot about terrorism, but mostly 
terrorism has nothing to do with Iraq anymore than terrorism has to do 
with other countries around the world.

The US won a victory in Iraq over Saddam Hussein and his army, even 
though the war was not necessary and should never have been waged.  The 
war only lasted days.  Ever since the US won victory in Iraq, the US 
mission seem to be a protection of  an American support government 
created in the image of US democracy, but that solution does not seem to 
make the Iraqi people happy, nor is it in accordance with the wishes of 
the majority of the Iraqi people.  The US mission to democratise the 
Iraqi people has destroyed the countries, caused many senseless and 
unnecessary deaths, and destory the Iraqi culture and way of life.  It 
has made the life of the Iraq people miserable and bitter.  Is the idea 
of forcing Democracy on the Iraqi people wrong.  Probably yes.

An insurrection of the Iraqi people against an occupation of their 
country by foreign force, couple with an internal civil struggle for 
power and control of the country, does not constitute war against the 
US,  and where their is no war, there is no possibility of victory or 
defeat.  The civil strife in Iraq has been going on for centuries, and 
is not something that America can fix in a few years.  It is time for 
America to disengage from Iraq, because only the Iraqi people can decide 
what they want for a country so far as society, religion, and government 
is concerned. 

The American people, and all her armies cannot force the Iraqi people to 
love an imposed government fashioned after US Democracy, any more than 
the American people, and all her armies, can force the Iraqi people 
lover a US God as opposed to a God of the Iraqi people's own understanding.

Regards,

LelandJ

Robert Calco wrote:
> http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27589
>
> - - -
>
> Lord knows I'm no expert in polling, but I wonder where the Dems find the 
> chutzpah to declare they've got some kind of plurality of public opinion in 
> their favor over the President at the moment, as they boldly plot a political 
> strategy to ensure our defeat and humiliation in Iraq, in order to win more 
> seats and the Presidency in 2008?
>
> Somebody's reading, if not smoking, something other than tea leaves at the 
> DNC.
>
> - Bob
>
>
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