There was just one memorable spark in the Democrats debate on CNN
Sunday. It lasted about a minute, then disappeared.

The subject turns for a very few seconds to the power of "interest
groups" in Washington, which Kucinich wants to "move away" from. Biden
quickly jumps on the opportunity to steal the thunder with the most
important statement made in the entire debate - and then the subject is
changed, never to reappear, not in the debates and not in the follow-up
analysis. Not anywhere.


The transcript of this exchange:

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MR. GRAVEL: Listen. They've been raiding the Social Security trust funds
of $200 million a year, and they're all involved in this. Now, what do
they say about it? You balance the budget by raiding the Social Security
fund of $200 million a year? And they're doing it now!

MR. BLITZER: Congressman Kucinich, you want to respond to that?

REP. KUCINICH: I do, because we're looking at a process here in
Washington that most of the American public isn't aware of. And that is,
these interest groups have such a hold on our country that right now
they're headed to grab the oil of Iraq using our troops. Right now
they're keeping a not-for-profit health-care system in its place. Right
now they're keeping NAFTA in its place. I'm talking about a real change
here that gives the American people a chance to recover their country
totally and by moving away from the interest groups --

MR. BLITZER: All right.

REP. KUCINICH: -- that, unfortunately, support some of my dear friends
here.

MR. BLITZER: Senator Biden.

SEN. BIDEN: Ten seconds. If you want to do away with the interest
groups, go to public financing of elections. Let's cut through all this
malarkey. (Applause.)

That is the bottom line. As long as there are massive contributions
pouring into the system, you're going to get these earmarks in the
middle of the night that have nothing to do with the people's interest.
So you want to do this? Reform the system. (Scattered applause.) Make a
public financing system. That will change the earmarks.

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Bill



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