On Jul 18, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Justin Darnell wrote:
> "So if Apple hired Paul and I, nobody could enhance Dabo? That's
> absurd."
>
> I understand that someone could, but would they? If the two lead
> developers
> walked away, would anyone be as passionate or involved enough to
> pick up the
> project? My opinion is that the answer is probably no.
That's probably correct. Now consider someone who used Dabo for
their application, and a year later found that the code to talk to
the PostgreSQL backend had a bug. They would indeed be motivated
enough to look at the code, track down the bug and fix it. Compare
that to, oh, I don't know... Visual FoxPro. How are you going to fix
bugs you may find in that?
> "Enterprise customers also get high-level support. In other words,
> they are paying for the support to make sure that all the latest and
> greatest stuff works. When that stuff is working consistently, it is
> migrated to the community edition."
>
> I understand this too. That wasn't my point. You SHOULD pay for
> support.
>
> My point was, if you're running an open source project, and previously
> accepted free code from the community, this seems like you're
> turning your
> back on them to start treating them like second class citizens.
> These are
> the same people who evangelized your software and got it into
> mainstream use
> to start with.
That's a pretty backwards way to look at it. Let me see if I
understand you correctly.
I currently write and support Dabo. Anyone can download it and use
it for free. But I need to pay my bills, so I start accepting paying
customers who ask for specific changes that they need for their apps.
I focus on them, since they're paying the bills. I then take all the
changes I made to the framework as pass them on to the rest of the
Dabo community.
If you were a regular Dabo user, you would feel insulted by this?
You would feel like a 'second-class citizen'?
> I get it, perfectly legal. Not necessarily the thing that gives
> you warm
> fuzzies about open source, though.
What would give you "warm fuzzies"?
> "Did you somehow interpret the word "freedom" as "guaranteed immediate
> updates and support for all eternity"?"
>
> No, but everyone brags about the community spirit of open source.
> Both of
> these moves are not community oriented.
Again, a backwards way of looking at things. They are making money
and helping to ensure that the developers are financially able to
continue to work on their projects. The communities are stronger than
ever.
-- Ed Leafe
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-- http://dabodev.com
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