Thank you Gill. At 02:28 PM 8/5/2007, you wrote: >My Good Doctor, > >I am sorry to see you are having such grief. Although my current and past >HP laptop purchases never had problems like the kind you are reporting, it >does cause me to take pause when pondering my next laptop investment. Here >is why: > >1) a car dealer client & friend of mine got one of HP's top-of-the-line >desktop replacement oversized "laptop" machines last Xmas (I recommended >against it due to size alone), and had nothing but grief with the power >on-off switch activating on its own. HP eventually replaced the machine for >him in April 2007, but only after he badgered the heck out of the Tech Rep >Manager about how HP could deal with him straight-up, or with his bank with >the Visa charge (he purchased directly via HP Online Store). HP upgraded >him to a newer machine, but it has Vista Home, and the dealer HATES Vista. >He will likely never get another HP machine, > >2) An employee of the same dealer got an HP laptop for her daughter the >other week, a less punchy model, and has the same problem with the power >switch activating on its own, at random, turning the laptop on or off at any >time. So far neither the reseller or HP have offered to do anything other >than reformat the hard drive and reinstall the software, at a fee as she >added some apps (Office, Norton AntiVirus). I told her that was bullshit, >and to give the reseller and HP the same option her boss did with the old, >"deal with me or Visa, you choose" option. She also has the reseller's >extended service contract, but since the manufacturer contract is in force >the extended contract reps advised they will not do anything for her! So >much for the, "We will overnight the covered item out for you, and back" >claim - as that apparently is only AFTER the basic mfg warranty expires. > >3) I recently found my own HP ZE2000 laptop has a known problem with its USB >v-2.0 ports. They do not output enough current to work with many external >hard drives, requiring me to get a powered external USB hub to use with many >of my larger USB Hard Drives, or get a PCMCIA USB 2.0 card (I did both). I >am out of basic warranty, and do feel it is a huge issue in my case, but I >will rethink who I choose for my next laptop builder. For me this is not a >huge problem, but it is aggravating I had to spend more to get some add-on >devices just to get the functionality I was expecting to have built-in with >the laptop. Otherwise it has been a fine laptop. > >The problem I face is deciding who to go with next time I get a laptop >(likely 2-3 years from now, I tend to replace them every 4-5 years). Compaq >laptops have the same USB low power situation on many of their newer models, >I am not interested in Acer, Dell is a contender just because I have had >great luck with my Dell Servers, IBM is not an option as I have an associate >who has perpetual problems with both of his IBM notebooks (they fix it, but >he always has to send it in, all kinds of issues), and I have not heard >anything lately about Toshiba lighting the world on fire like they had in >the early days of portable computer design. > >So, if you are within a warranty period, and HP is not handling the problem >for you, perhaps the old, "Okay, you can deal with Visa then" approach may >be your best recourse. Unfortunately it often hurts the reseller who may be >innocent of wrongdoing. But it will likely get you some attention on the >matter that you otherwise would not get. As an aside, many Platinum/Gold >Visa or MasterCard issuers offer an automatic extension to the >manufacturer's warranty up to one additional year. It may be worth going >down that path if you are out of basic warranty. I could have done that >with my laptop, but again, I have decided I can live with the situation. > >I hate it when folks have problems with technical equipment and are >ignored/abandoned by the manufacturer and reseller. These companies are so >fast to take our money, and can be so slow in helping when help is needed. >If a consumer does not know his/her (cost effective) alternatives and >options, or opts to not use them when they are available, that person just >becomes another casualty/victim in the world of retail sales. I stopped >being a victim a long time ago. I try to be decent when seeking a >resolution to a problem, but I am also firm with whoever I am dealing with >re: knowing my next step options. Finally, document all communication via >eMail whenever you can, just in case you do have to go the Visa/MasterCard >resolution route. The more documentation you have, the better. Dates, >times, who spoke with whom, the subject of discussion, what the vendor >suggested, etc. > >Good Luck! > >Gil
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