How do you get the conclusion from what I said that increases in global 
warming causes CO2. I said that increases in CO2 is causing global warming. 
That is exactly what this argument is about. Actually NO is also a 
greenhouse gas. This comes mainly from jet planes.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Madigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Is it cold or hot? global warming data


> Once again, you're misrepresenting the cause and
> effect.
>
> Increases in global temperatures CAUSES increases in
> CO2 in the atmosphere
>
> Increases in CO2 DOES NOT cause increases in global
> temperatures.
>
> SOMETHING ELSE is causing increases in global
> temperatures, NOT CO2.
>
>
>
>
> --- Nicholas Geti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>> Don't you understand that one doesn't need pictures
>> from the 1500's or from
>> any period in the past 4 billion years to determine
>> the conditions on our
>> planet? For example, we know that South America and
>> Africa were joined at
>> one time. Also Nova Scotia and England. Tectonic
>> drift accounts for this
>> stuff. We don't need satellite pictures to prove it.
>>
>> Core samples at the Antarctic are good enough to
>> show climate for the last 2
>> or 3 thousand years. Scientists can measure CO2 as
>> well as dust and many
>> other gases in the samples. Global warming
>> correlates 99% with the increase
>> in CO2 in the atmosphere. Start reading some real
>> science instead of
>> listening to yourself blather on and on.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Michael Madigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NF] Is it cold or hot? global warming
>> data
>>
>>
>> > Show me the satelite pictures from the 1500s and
>> let's
>> > compare.
>> >
>> > Doesn't anyone understand that the earth is 4
>> billion
>> > years old and you can't extract 12 years out of 4
>> > billion and come up with a trend that's
>> meaningful?
>> >
>> > Didn't anyone take statistics in college?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Nicholas Geti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Good one, Ed.
>> >>
>> >> Also he should read something besides flight
>> >> information. The Economist and
>> >> National Geographic are just two sources that
>> cull
>> >> the most interesting
>> >> research info about global warming. Just seeing
>> >> pictures of the North Pole
>> >> taken over the last dozen years from a satellite
>> >> should convince anybody.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "ProFox Email List" <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:15 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [NF] Is it cold or hot? global
>> warming
>> >> data
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On Dec 12, 2007, at 4:57 PM, John Weller wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'm not anti global warming theories, just
>> >> sceptical which is the
>> >> >> result of
>> >> >> my training in flight trials - don't believe
>> any
>> >> claims
>> >> >> (particularly from a
>> >> >> manufacturer) until they have been proven!
>> >> >
>> >> > You seem to impugn a whole lot of people who
>> have
>> >> done some serious
>> >> > research, yet you fail to mention how the
>> evidence
>> >> they have produced
>> >> > is at all questionable.
>> >> >
>> >> > People get research grants because their work
>> is
>> >> thorough and
>> >> > correct, not because it supports any personal
>> >> theory. If anything,
>> >> > the Big Money would be behind the folks trying
>> to
>> >> pooh-pooh the
>> >> > evidence, because that would help ensure that
>> they
>> >> can continue to do
>> >> > business without being held responsible for
>> their
>> >> effect on others.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, "proof" is a slippery word. You do know
>> that
>> >> any connection
>> >> > between smoking tobacco and lung cancer, heart
>> >> disease, and all the
>> >> > other bad things currently attributed to
>> smoking
>> >> has never been
>> >> > "proven", right? You do know that atomic theory
>> >> has never been
>> >> > "proven" either, despite the indisputable
>> evidence
>> >> of nuclear bombs?
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Ed Leafe
>> >> > -- http://leafe.com
>> >> > -- http://dabodev.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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