and I thought that it was funny that the guy was sitting in front of what appears to be an iMac. :)
::m Charlie Coleman wrote: > At 06:27 AM 1/9/2008 -0600, Stephen Russell wrote: >> <http://darkgate.net/comic/images/joyoftech/1199855462.gif> >> >> -- > > Interesting, and it sure sounds alarming at first. Not that I'm defending > the medical industry (especially regarding insurance companies), but here > are some things I'm wondering about from the article. > > Quote: "amenable mortality"—that is, deaths from certain causes before age > 75 that are potentially preventable with timely and effective health care. > Quote: ...amenable mortality was developed in the 1970s ... researchers > used data ... on deaths from conditions ... such as treatable cancers, > diabetes, and cardiovascular disease. > > The above made me wonder a bit. For one, determining if something is > 'preventable' seems to perhaps be a judgement call. But maybe there are > some standards that could be used. Also, here in the US, we have a LOT of > people that have a very sedentary work and lifestyle. Not to mention our > love-affair with our fast food shops. I'm wondering if the study tried to > normalize those aspects across the nations they studied. As a quick > example, I remember reading about the positive effects of red wine on the > cardiovascular system (not in excess of course). And seeing several > European countries in the better rankings, I wonder if the study tried to > address that as well. I wonder if saki has similar effects. Lordy, if beer > was a heart-helper I bet we'd be ranking up there <g>. > > Also, were there other data-impacting changes during those years. In other > words, were there changes in the way the deaths were logged/categorized > over the period of evaluation? > > So I'd hesitate to recommend sweeping changes based on the surface of what > is mentioned on that web page. I imagine the full study and their data > details would need to be reviewed to see if there are potential weaknesses > in the conclusion. > > I don't know if that means I'm closing my eyes and mind or not... but right > now it's lunch time, so I'm heading out to get my whopper, fries, and a > milkshake. :P > > -Charlie > > PS. I read Steve Wolfe's post, and I have to agree. I have a friend whose > wife is a pediatrician. What Steve said is spot-on with what I hear as well. > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
