At 10:25 AM 2/19/2008 -0600, Ed Leafe wrote:
>On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Charlie Coleman wrote:
...

> > But, ya know, in terms of "democracy" this structure of voting sure doesn't
> > sound very democratic to me. It sounds more like and "elite" set of  folks
> > try to keep things the way they want it. Hmm....
>
>         Political parties are not governments, so they get to make up their
>own rules. Again, why is this news?

It just struck me as odd that a political party, that supposedly professes 
it is better at "democracy" than the opposition (Republicans), set up this 
kind of "elitist group" in determining who gets the party's nomination. 
That is, a group that isn't chosen by the people to determine who they want 
to be president.

Sure a "party organization" is not a government. But it certainly is 
entwined in the political system of our government. And very vocally as 
well, e.g. political propaganda (from both parties). I would not have found 
the same thing so odd if we were talking about how some corporation 
determines it's CEO, or how a union determines it's leadership.

Anyway, that's just my take. Maybe you knew this was there all along - I 
didn't.


> > I'm off to see if the Republicans have something similar.
>
>         Did you read the wikipedia entry? "The Republican Party also seats
>some party officials as delegates without regard to primary or caucus
>results, but the term "superdelegate" is most commonly applied only in
>the Democratic Party."

Why I did indeed read it. That's why I wanted to see if the Republicans had 
something similar (aka 20% of the votes controlled by "elitists").

As a quick side note, it appears the Republicans do not have the same sort 
of delegates. The supposed "superdelegates" (actually called unpledged 
delegates I think) in the Republican party are elected like pledged 
delegates. But my research isn't done yet. I would think there would be 
some delegates that probably are not purely elected per se - e.g. chair of 
the convention, etc. But no matter what, it looks like the Republicans have 
a much smaller "elitist" group.

-Charlie



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