Ed, > No. Either you are closed-minded on this to the point > that you think he has been fooling millions of people > for years, or you would have found this out for yourself. > I have zero interest in convincing you otherwise.
I did research him, and did find him wanting. My question was to see if your barbs at me about how closed-minded I am are because you don't have anything but enthusiasm to go on or because you have real data that I haven't seen. So far, you are making empty protests and not providing reasons for your support of Obama that I would find solid and convincing. Getting health care through Congress is going to require a lot of hard work and deal-making. Getting a good plan for Iraq going forward is going to require the same. Improving our standing around the world is going to require ties that Obama does not have, and which Hillary has by virtue of personally traveling to 80 countries to create those ties and improve conditions in other countries. Obama has no such international connections. The Clintons -- both of them -- have created a lot of good will over their many years in public service. That good will carried Bill Clinton through impeachment, and Hillary through massive derision she never deserved. Hillary is not actually a polarizing figure. It was only the right wing that demonized her, and the Republicans she has actually been working with can attest that she most definitely builds bridges across party lines. I hate to see folks buy into the idea that Hillary is any less respected than Obama. He is less hated because he is less known. Nothing else. You ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to right wing attacks. So far they're complaining about people using his middle name. Wait until the big guns come out. The fear card will get a lot of play against Obama. It is my opinion that the best way for Obama to overcome his very real shortcomings on foreign policy and deal-making ability would be to put Hillary on the ticket. A VP with those ties can add a lot to a ticket. I want her to continue to pull in delegates so that she is better positioned to change Obama's health care policy and add gravitas. We'll see what happens. She'd still be useful in the senate but would be a lot more useful back in the white house. Kristyne _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
