David,

> Sorry, you don't remember the history of the purchase of VFP 
> by MSFT. In the begging, there were 3 Xbase products - dBase, 
> FoxBASE, and Clipper.  Borland bought Ashton-Tate (haven't 
> heard that name in a while).  MSFT bought Fox Software 
> shortly afterwards and CA bought Clipper.  We should be 
> grateful that the best of the bunch (IMHO) was not killed by 
> MSFT like the other 2 companies did with the other products.  

We'll just never know if MS could have killed an independent Fox
Software.

And, btw, I was there - I had moved to Fox from dBase III, before MS
bought Fox.


> At the time I thought it was a very positive thing for the 
> Fox product to have the MSFT resources.  Also, I remember at 
> that time, Dr. Dave being interviewed about the future where 
> you would have a single UI and the developer would get to 
> choose which language to best use for the purpose of the 
> application.  Sounds like Visual Studio when it went from a 
> suite of products to a single product (.NET).  Yes, I think 
> there was some political more than technical issue with VFP 
> not being part of the CLR.  I think they just figured it was 
> too hard and it was too much like VB without the built in 
> database engine.

I think it was totally political. The built-in database made Fox the
clear and very obvious better choice. Who in their right mind would
choose Basic over FoxPro, besides Bill Gates that is?

 
> >MS isn't on our side, unless of course we get into their fold and
> re-write for .NET. MS's latest/last move with VFP have been crafted 
> >for one reason: to keep the company from being sued by people like me
> who bought into their sales pitch when they assimilated VFP and 
> >invested heavily in the FoxPro product development system - only to
> discover years (and many hundreds of thousands of dollars) later
> > that they had an ulterior motive all along. Had they been honest and
> up-front about their plan, we wouldn't be in the position we're 
> >in today.
> 
> Ask the folks who went to the DevCon in Florida (I missed it) 
> where MSFT hijacked the keynotes with .NET presentations...  
> The writings have been on the wall for a while that MSFT 
> focus is .NET and not VFP... 


I don't think that's the whole story. MS could have kept VFP going along
with .NET, but as VFP grew and got better/stronger, it threatened to cut
into sales of higher priced products. But I think the operative point is
that MS never planned to keep VFP going from the beginning, it was a
matter of how and when they would pull the plug, but not if. 

 
> >What they did, in my mind, was totally underhanded but typical
behavior.
> >It is with much irony that I admire Bill Gates, but I certainly do
not
> > like and will not accept being one of his victims.


> You always have that choice...

A choice between being a victim or not? That's a no-brainer.

 
> >You want to promote MS, fine, but from my point of view you don't
> belong here.
> 
> Who elected you president?


Does "from my point of view" sound presidential?

 
> >To anyone else, my effort is to identify and capitalize on VFP's
> strength in the marketplace and get around the obstacles MS has
created.
> >We do have options, despite what MS and their lackeys are saying.
> 
> Agreed.


We're not at odds :)


Bill

 


> David L. Crooks



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