> 
> On Jun 19, 2008, at 8:43 AM, Bob Calco wrote:
> 
> >>> These parents were deluded by false doctrine
> >>
> >> They would say the same of you.
> >
> > What is your view? If I am deluded, I would appreciate pointers in
> > the right
> > direction.
> 
> I'm not saying you are deluded, I'm saying that the parents and their
> church community would say that you are. They would say that you are
> one of little faith.

Well, I understand in a rudderless "I say, you say" argument that's what
happens (hell, you pay attention to OT, you know this as well as
anyone!)--and not just about religion, but also about politics and love and
friendship and basically every aspect of our lives as human beings. 

> 
> For every one proclaiming a Holy Truth, there is another proclaiming
> that it is false doctrine. For every one proclaiming a prophet, there
> is another saying it is a false prophet.
> 
> http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6073
>   - or - http://tinyurl.com/5c7wz2

Well, I do believe people should be free to pursue whatever noble or wacky
ideas they want to pursue, as long as they DON'T push anyone off a bridge
who disagrees.

> 
> You obviously have a lot of intellectual energy behind your beliefs.

I try. I disappoint myself sometimes, but usually I am pretty good about
dotting my I's and crossing my t's, and even changing my mind when
confronted with superior argument. 

Really superior argument, I mean. ;)

> What it to be said about those with with just as much energy and
> education behind theirs, but come to other conclusions?

Obvious answer: One of us *must* be wrong; both of us *might* be wrong. :)

If it's me, I ask only for proof so I can know where my error is.
 
The problem you pose in your response is about epistemology --how can we
really know what we say we know? 

I'll give it some thought and reply in a separate post ... at some point...
but it's a deep question that isn't served by a flippant reply. Give me some
time on it.

- Bob

> Ken
> 




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