Leland,

It's interesting that sharing my configuration puzzle prompted you to 
upgrade yours.  Best wishes on your new acquisition!

I reviewed the manual at the URL you provided and understand that it is 
possible to configure the DNS address that will be given out by the DHCP 
server but that setting is on the WAN side.  I doubt that the router 
would work at all if the WAN DNS addresses were non-routable addresses on 
the LAN side.

Joe

On Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:45 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>
>Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:45:09 -0500
>From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:
>Subject: Re: [NF] Small LAN configuration for failsafe DNS
>
>Joe,
>
>After reading this thread, I decided to do some research on routers, as
>I have been thinking about upgrading from the Linksys WRT54GS router I
>currently use to gain a little more security and other features.  This
>afternoon I ordered a netgear FVG318 router from mwave.com, which seem
>to have many of the features that interest you:
>
>http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SkuSearch_v2.asp?SCriteria=3767623
>ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/FVG318_RM_09Oct07.pdf
>
>It cost me 119.82 plus $9.00 shipping for a total of $128.82.
>
>I'm running web/mail/dbms servers out of my home office.  SuddenLink is
>my ISP and provides a WAN static IP address that make me a node within
>thier network.  As part of suddenLink's services, I am also provided
>with their gateway IP address and their primary and secondary DNS IP
>Addresses, which I used in the WAN setting of my router, but I don't
>have my DNS A type domain record with suddenLink.  I use directNIC's
>DNS, and have set up A type DNS records and MX type mail records on
>their server as below.  The DirecNIC DNS services only cost me $5.00 per
>year without regard to how many records I create.
>
>*type Name       Domain            Data                 Pref
>*A                      smvfp.com   66.76.180.236
>A      *.             smvfp.com   66.76.180.236
>A    www.         smvfp.com    66.76.180.236
>MX                    smvfp.com    66.76.180.236     20
>MX   *.              smvfp.com    66.76.180.236     10
>MX  leland.       smvfp.com     66.76.180.236     20
>MX   mail.         smvfp.com     66.76.180.236    20
>
>http://www.directnic.com/
>
>The netgear router will allow you to enter a WIN IP address for your
>2003 DNS to provide netbios services to your local windows computers,
>both real and virtual.  If your WIN DNS fails, then the router could
>assume those duties over TCP/IP if your using dynamically  assigned IP
>addresses.  Your window 2003 DNS could also provide static IP address
>over TCP/IP by using your lmhosts file, if that hasn't changed since
>window NT Server.
>
>I'm running a windows NT server that provides login services for my
>window XP Pro virtual machine running under VMware, which is hosted on
>Fedora 8.  My windows NT Server is also being used as my network
>printer.  Other than the one NT primary DNS for my local network, I'm an
>all Linux shop.  The netgear router has lots of option to improve
>security and would allow you to configure your network in may different
>ways.  It appear the netgear router will be a big improvement over the
>Linksys rounter.  considering all I get with a $128.82 netgear router, I
>have to wonder what I would get if I decided to go big time and spend
>$799.00 or more on a Cisco router.  LOL
>
>Regards,
>
>LelandJ
>
>Jim Felton wrote:
>> Joe, try setting the starting address for DCHP on your router at 100 and
>> limit the number of addresses to what you need for the laptops/notebooks + 1
>> for guest system.  Then you can use static IPs for all the other systems on
>> the network as long as you keep the addresses below 100.  I use this method
>> at my home (6 systems) and at work (145 systems).
>>
>> Also set your DNS addresses at the systems WIN2003 as 1st, Router as Second,
>> 3rd as Internet provider's DNS and 4th a Public DNS Server.  When your
>> mobile users are in the office they will get their IP from the router, their
>> DNS Info from the WIN 2003 box if it is up, the Router next, etc. When the
>> mobile users are out of the office if can find d DCHP server it may or may
>> no act as a DNS server, but it does matter because you have give their
>> systems a place to find a DNS server.
>>
>> Even you are in a company that issues IP's but won't pass or share DNS data
>> to limit internet access you users should be able to get to and use the
>> internet.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of Joe Yoder
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:12 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [NF] Small LAN configuration for failsafe DNS
>>
>> I am running Server 2003 on a small LAN of about 10 machines. Internet
>> access is via cable modem connected through a router to all machines.  I
>> need to have the machines use the DNS server in the 2003 box while that box
>> is functional.  If the 2003 box is down, the router should handle the DNS.
>>
>> My current router's DHCP server has no setting to control the Preferred or
>> Alternate DNS server values it distributes.  Does someone know of a router
>> with a built in DHCP server that does support those settings?
>>
>> I expect there would be a way to setup a Linux box to do the job but I would
>> prefer avoiding adding any equipment with rotating parts.
>>
>> Another possibility would be to have two DHCP servers (router and 2003) with
>> non overlapping ranges.  Is there a way to ensure that the 2003 one would
>> always win when it is running?  Might a switch between the router and the
>> rest of the LAN add enough delay to have 2003 get there first?
>>
>> TIA for any input,
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
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