Mike & Kristyne (and whoever else may be eavesdropping, ... Ed): > > No place where I would want to work, that's for sure. I'm tired of > people labeling dissension as venom. It's ridiculous. > > Why didn't Republicans riot after Obama won, yet the homosexuals in > California rioted because they lost Prop 8? It's all about being an > adult and being civil. The left can spit on, beat up and urinate on > old ladies that they don't agree with, but the Right loses the election > and uses words instead of barbarian acts to vent. > > It's as if Democracy only applies to the left. > > Now people call anyone who disagrees with Obama a racist, however, when > people vote for him only because he's Black, they're not labeled > racists. > > That's an unbelievable lack of logic.
The real problem as I see it is a little different. I'll explain as best I can. I like discussing things with both of you, for very different reasons, though you both have your positive and negative traits as debate partners and opponents go. (Yea, said the pot about the kettles...) I like Mike's instinctively battle-ready mindset, and thick-as-bricks skin. He doesn't pull any punches and he never whines when he gets walloped upside the head. He takes debate as sport, and is more than prepared to live with the consequences of his statements, win, lose or draw. He expresses himself openly and without pretense. What more could you ask? Oh, logical consistency. Well, Mike offers some of that, but he's not given to purely abstract thinking--his is a physical, tactile world of tangible things. Race horses, T-shirts, beautiful girls. That kind of thing. On a downside, he expects everyone else to have similarly thick skin and practical bent, and he prefers straight strikes with overwhelming force to subtle jabs at secret pressure points, so he rubs some people as a kind of insensitive monster, which is a horribly unfair view of him. Try being entertained by him rather than be attacked by him, and you'll find he's actually a good guy with some strong but mostly civilized views. (We all have a few opinions that are, shall we say, a bit out there; and we all express ourselves a bit "too openly" among both friends and long-standing acquaintances--virtual or otherwise.) Kristyne is compassionate and exercises levelheadedness in ways Ed could only imagine himself being levelheaded. Actually, she's one of the most open-minded folks on the list. She can be very logical, and very illogical, but she's never "unreasonable." She takes time to catalog her reasons, and is always concise, which I admire as that's not a trait I have by nature. :) ON a downside, she can be judgmental in a negative sense, and obstinate when she's "made up her mind to make up her mind" -- at some point, there's no new facts or arguments that can make her turn back. She's not very different than any of us in that regard. That can be admirable; I'd probably like it if she were on my side more often than not. But anyway I love her dedication to her homestead and husband, her fervor in all matters, and her self-honesty, particularly in personal matters. My point is that we don't take time to like the other people on the list. I have this thing, for example, about Ed---I view him as a guy with his precious twit filter stuck so far up his $$$ that he won't even deign to give someone another chance to engage him, one he has unilaterally decided they're a twit. Oh I know it's his God-that-doesn't-exist's right to do so, that's not the point. It's one trait I really don't like, a kind of passive aggressive arrogance that acts like it's some kind of aristocratic duty to hold back the plebes. But whatever. I pledge if life ever presents the opportunity I'd gladly get blitzkrieged with him at a pub and I bet we'd get along fine. I'd like to know the real him; I hear he's a fine fellow. Also, and this is my last point, we do need a better variety of discussion. I like the link-to-something-outrageous-or-funny-followed-by-witty-commentary format, but maybe we could benefit from some other kinds of discussion formats. Vince and I discussed this offline once or twice. Rather than bitch and moan about how a couple people are spoiling it for everyone, oh woe is OT, why don't we all try to lead by example? Try out different things, show a little empathy once in a while? I think the other thing is that one man's humor is another's disrespect. Everyone just needs to understand this and let people try to be funny. Maybe someday, with practice among friends, they will be. ;) - Bob > > <snip> > > I don't know why he writes this kind of stuff on the > > internet. Anyone that > > does a search on "michael madigan vfp" finds the > > venom. It would be enough > > to influence a hiring decision for some folks. > > > > Kristyne McDaniel > > http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog > > http://www.emryldadvantage.com/ > > http://www.mcstyles.com/ > > > > Whether you think you can, or you think you can't.... > > you are right. > > -- Henry Ford > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Post Messages to: [email protected] > > Subscription Maintenance: > > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox > > OT-free version of this list: > > http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech > > Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox > > This message: > > > http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/F669A3E199F74F17B7DEF79FABB0DB7C > @KristyneMB > > ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are > > the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or > > medical advice. 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