> 
> Bob Calco said:
> 
> >> No, it makes you a rude obnoxious pig - just like everyone else
> (other
> >> than pete) thinks of you!
> >
> > Actually Geoff I think both Mike and Pete are simply chronic
> contrarians,
> > who happen to be of a more or less conservative disposition.
> 
> It's possible to be a "chronic contrarian" of any disposition without
> being a "rude obnoxious pig". 

True enough.

> You've posted a couple of times in the
> recent past about how nice it would be if everyone would stop
> filtering and start discussing again. Unfortunately, those who are
> looking for a conversation that isn't rude and obnoxious have a hard
> time carrying one on amidst the noise.

I still maintain that people who really care about issues and want to
discuss them intelligently will hardly let the "noise" stop them, or be
driven mad by it. 

Folks who want to vent or use aggressive argumentation tactics reap what
they sow, of course, but often they too care about issues. All I'm saying is
if more time was spent by those who care on debating the issues in a
substantive way, and less on bemoaning the style of a few posters or
reacting to outrageous comments, then -- imagine it! -- more substantive
debate would happen.

- Bob

> 
> -Jerry Wolper
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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