On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Paul Hill <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's a flaw in the browser, or should I say a feature that's
> misused.  Exactly the same can happen on Linux.

I don't believe that's true. A binary download in Linux is not
executable by default.

I'd suggest there are several flaws that contribute to this: ActiveX
controls are unrestricted executables that run, by default, with
permissions of the user. Internet Explorer, which Microsoft insists is
an "integral part of the OS," will load and run ActiveX controls.
Later versions of Windows have added some signing restrictions on
that, but...

> In both Linux and Windows if the user has restricted rights then the
> malware can only do so much.

True, but Windows comes out of the box unrestricted. Aunt Tilly
shouldn't be an admin, by default.

> Also, you can disable activex using policies etc.

As I said in my previous email, a skilled practitioner can tighten up
nearly every OS. But it's the out-of-the-box issue.

>> That
>> there are many ways to disguise ActiveX controls in browsers such that
>> unsuspecting users download infectedware and run it on their machines
>> is a massive flaw.
>
> Stupid users can use Linux too...
>

But they can't run ActiveX controls :)

Sure, they can still activate trojan horses, but it takes them more work.

-- 
Ted Roche
Ted Roche & Associates, LLC
http://www.tedroche.com


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