Obviously I need to restate my questions or statements in a manner that
doesn't assume you have a clue about what I am really trying to say. When I
referred to a 'standard approach' I really should have used the words
'default approach'. Some people are using XML as the default approach rather
than on a needs basis. When I refer to binary format I am referring
essentially to a native format. For example DBFs. Zip up a DBF result set
and transmit it or use XML. I wonder which is smaller? And both ZIP and DBF
are standards that any language can handle - if that were even an issue.

> My question revolves around the transmission of data and why use a  
> verbose
> format when binary will do.

Now will adding a '?' to the previous sentence make it a question for you?

One of my complaints is XML-evangelists. They say it is the greatest thing
since sliced bread and disparage any other method. It has its place as I
have actually stated. In fact my question goes to the heart of 'when' to use
it. 

As for what is and isn't a question, I suggest you revisit Grammar 101. I
have obviously stirred up a hornet's nest when asking a simple question
about XML and the responses have been extraordinary as well as utterly
irrelevant.

I feel like the boy who said "the emperor has no clothes". But if you
remember the story, the boy was right.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Ed Leafe
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 9:10 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [NF] M$ is pushing ahead for performance

On Jan 14, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Geoff wrote:

> But you describe XML as a 'standard' approach and call binary non- 
> standard.
> By who's definition?


        Are you serious? XML is indeed standardized:
http://www.xml.com/axml/testaxml.htm 
. Can you say that about your binary format?

        There are tools in every language to read/write XML. Can you say
that  
about your binary format?

> My question remains as to why use a format that is
> 20times as big as a binary format when there is no real reason.

        That's not a question; that's called assuming the conclusion. By  
assuming that there is "no real reason", you've changed a question  
into a statement.

> My question revolves around the transmission of data and why use a  
> verbose
> format when binary will do.

        Again, not a question at all. And you've already received several
use  
cases for XML; it's no one's responsibility to make you actually think  
them through.

> And why use a verbose format (XML) when its
> effect on network and application performance has the potential to  
> be quite
> adverse.

        Again, another non-question that has already been addressed.


-- Ed Leafe





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