I'm not sure what answer you want since it is apparent you have something in mind. Personal choic and responsibility seems to be out of favour a lot in society these days but it doesn’t change the fact that CHOICE sites on top of nature and nurture and makes you ultimately responsible for much of your behaviour.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 8:18 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro Geoff Flight wrote: > You misunderstand. Nature and nurture are what make you what you are by > default. CHOICE sits on top of both of those and allows you to modify these > to be something better (or worse). > I understood as much. But, where does a particular choice come from. Let's say you have to choose between A and B, let's say you chose A. Where did that come from? Did you choose A because you are who you are? Because the holy spirit inspired you? Just sheer chance? Which? (I still can't get a straight answer from you on this topic). > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Ricardo Aráoz > Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 6:28 AM > To: ProFox Email List > Subject: Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro > > Geoff Flight wrote: > >> You are redefining your philosophy to exclude personal responsibility. IN >> determining behavior there is Nature and Nurture. However, there is also >> CHOICE (ie personal responsibility) >> >> > And choice comes from Nature or Nurture? Or where does it come from? > Please answer this, it is the question you've been dodging for a long > time now. Where does choice come from? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Ricardo Aráoz >> Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:26 PM >> To: ProFox Email List >> Subject: Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from Castro >> >> Geoff Flight wrote: >> >> >>> No matter how you redefine this philosophy it ends up looking like and >>> excuse for any behavior. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Now you are beginning to sound unfair. Doing the same things MadAgain >> does when he engages. Please read my two posts (they are cited right >> below), and enlighten us as to where I am redefining anything. >> As for the "excuse" part, yes, it looks like an excuse for any behaviour >> (IF there is a god). >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Ricardo Aráoz >>> Sent: Sunday, 1 February 2009 10:09 AM >>> To: ProFox Email List >>> Subject: Re: [OT] Chaves warms to Obama after character reference from >>> Castro >>> >>> Geoff Flight wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> < Not always so. I believe that if god exists, His wish is for me to be as >>>> authentically me (the one he created) as possible. If I don't know if He >>>> exists, or what his will is, then it's because he does not WANT me to >>>> spend >>>> time thinking about him, if I try to guess what he wants I'll probably mess >>>> His things up. >>>> So as you can see, the existence or not, of god will make NO difference in >>>> my behaviour.> >>>> >>>> Isn’t that the argument that can basically be summed as as 'nothing >>>> matters'? as a philosophy it is certainly lacking substance and direction. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> No Geoff, read it again. Where does it say "nothing matters!? >>> On the contrary, many things matter to me. And, trying to be the most >>> authentic "me", I make a big effort for them to matter more so. >>> You seem to think that being who you really are is a bad thing. I say >>> that depends on who you are. Speaking from MY experience, it is a great >>> thing. >>> >>> > > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: [email protected] Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archives/search/profox This message: http://leafe.com/archives/byMID/profox/[email protected] ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
