Bob Calco wrote: >> I was under the impression that prayers for selfish reasons were not >> granted. >> > > That is indeed the case. We are allowed to petition God with what we need, > but it's generally considered redundant since He knows these things even > before we do, and is hardly the kind of prayer He likes to hear. Don't we > all like it more when our kids say "thanks" instead of "but I want this and > this and this and this and this..."? > > We are strictly to give thanks, and pray for His will in every scenario, > even when and if it conflicts with our heart's desire. This is the model > Jesus left anyhow. > > Things like miracles and signs are spiritual interventions, but what spirit > is intervening is a point of caution. Not all signs and wonders are of God. > This is why the gift of discernment is such a spiffy thing. > > >> In any case for every success like you indicate how can you >> explain >> the millions of horrific events that happen to people and they pray but >> do >> not get relief? Sounds like a mixed up god to me. >> > > People are praying for the wrong things, and view God like people now view > the government---like a dispenser of endless entitlement benefits, a cosmic > Robin Hood, and a guarantor of unshakable health and financial security in > this life. > > God's not the messed up one. All of this is made the way it is for a reason, > and it only seems messed up to us because we're not in right relationship to > Him, and have no idea how to begin to see these issues from His perspective. > > Most of us think He's absurd or cruel, or doesn't exist, or if He did > shouldn't exist, and as long as we think this or have other misconceptions > about His nature, we won't exactly have His ear. > > - Bob > > Ok! That's it! As of right now I'll be praying every night that Geoff limits himself to politics posts, and Bob to religious ones. And that god gives wrist trouble to Bob so he has to shorten his posts. My attention span is short and I get bored and asleep reading his posts. We'll see. If there is a god my wishes will be granted by his praisers (i.e. Bob and Geoff)
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